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Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) is ramping up his campaign to use the Fort Hood shootings to paint the Obama administration as soft on terrorism.

At a press conference today, where he was joined by several GOP colleagues, Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence committee, called for an immediate congressional investigation into the shootings, to determine whether the intelligence community needs enhanced tools to combat terror. Hoekstra and his colleagues also suggested, without citing evidence, that the administration had restricted the use of crucial terror-fighting tools that could have been used to stop the attacks.

The National Security Council, which has taken over responsibility for briefing Congress on the shooting, had previously asked Congress to delay its probe until a military investigation has been completed. But Hoekstra, who is running for governor of Michigan, insisted: "It has to happen now. This is not something that we should take weeks or months to wait on." And he released a letter that makes that case to Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Hoekstra and Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) charged that terror-fighting tools used until recently by the intelligence community had lately been restricted or placed off limits by the administration. "We know that there are tools and methods that were in use just a few months ago are not in use today," said Rogers. "That is a problem."

The GOPers declined to say which tools they were referring to, or to produce any other evidence to back up their claim. Nonetheless, they blamed the Obama administration's political philosophy. Rogers referred to the administration's decisions to close Guantanamo and to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a civilian court as examples of the administration's approach, before declaring: "There are certain tools and methods that are used by the intelligence community that can be impacted by that kind of political philosophy."

Hoekstra has already complained about the scope and timing of the administration's briefing of Congress on the shootings. And earlier this year, he savaged Pelosi for charging that the CIA had misled her about torture -- despite a wealth of evidence suggesting Pelosi was telling the truth.


Additional reporting by Evan McMorris-Santoro

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November 17, 2009 6:19 PM   

Rep. Hoekstra, do you mean like 9/11? Oh wait, we had those tools then...

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November 18, 2009 12:45 AM    in reply to ohyeathatsright

Hoekstra tends to not only delude himself but he also tries to hoodwink others. Actually the entire problem with Hasan occurred on the Bush watch but it is no more Bush's problem than it is Obama's. The military had established very lax safeguards for this situation and it ended in all these deaths. The guy had asked for conscientious objector status. Even now, routinely sending a Muslim into the Iraq or Afghanistan theaters seems silly to me unless a thorough evaluation occurs. That way, before it happens, special care and psychological evaluations are necessary in order to be fair to the person as well as to others around the person. But, years ago, the Army had ample warning this guy was a loaded pistol and they did nothing. That is the tragedy in this matter. Not only was this guy a conflicted Muslim, but his performance level was way below what was acceptable. And sad to say, there were all soets of clues his supervisors missed.

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November 17, 2009 6:28 PM   

Hoekstra - political hooker, full of strawmen!

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November 17, 2009 6:29 PM   

Does the current GOP Congress drink crazy juice, or are they generally ape ship? Would any voter in Michigan really vote for this putz for Governor?

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November 17, 2009 7:01 PM    in reply to Bushie

Actually a study has shown that Republicanism is a mental illness.

There are three telling signs that can diagnose this psychotic disorder.

Constant lying, a state of false reality and memory loss are the biggest symptoms.

1. When presented with the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth with facts to back it up they usually reply with a smirk, a smile or act as if the truth and facts do not exist.

2. They normally suffer from some type of memory loss or they were watching Fox News which provides them with the false reality that America just was destroyed and bankrupted during Obama's Inauguration.

It's like the last 8 years never happened.

3. The memory loss can go to imbecilic effects when questioned under oath. They usually respond with "I can't recall".

This psychotic disorder is passed mostly through inbreeding.

You didn't know Dick Cheney and Gonzo were cousins did you.

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November 17, 2009 7:16 PM    in reply to Langx

LOL. Actually (and a little more seriously) there's a certain lawyerly type guy who wrote a fairly scholarly book on the subject that does indeed point to a shared personality disorder.

No...seriously. Footnotes/endnotes, citing research and everything.

The guy: former Rethuglican John Dean. The book: Conservatives Without Conscience. A very good read — if you want to slightly scare yourself about your neighbors, the terrorist fear-mongering, and how these same tactics worked so well for Stalin, Mussolini and (sorry) Hitler.

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November 18, 2009 12:20 AM    in reply to Langx

There really is a study showing the Republican base is disconnected from reality, even from other conservatives. http://www.democracycorps.com/focus/2009/10/the-very-separate-world-of-conservative-republicans/?section=Analysis

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November 18, 2009 8:54 AM    in reply to Langx

They were too busy smoking all that weed they keep illegal and just happened to forget the last 8 years. It's not their fault they can't recall anything...

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November 18, 2009 10:43 AM    in reply to Langx

Ah, but the bigger, more urgent question is: Why does it so often WORK?
These guys can only lie, obfuscate, and rewrite history as much as the 'market' will bear it. In this case, the 'market' is the media and, by extension, the public.
They have very successfully equated good old-fashioned hard-nosed journalism with lots of tough follow up questions with liberalism. Once you've done that you can basically say whatever you want. Witness Rudy "9/11 9/11 9/11" Giuliani who wholeheartedly supported the civilian court trial of Moussaoui (on TV) but now pillories Obama for making the very difficult decision to do the same with KSM. He doesn't care if he's directly and blatantly contradicting himself because Fox will 'balance out' MSNBC and the rest of the media won't call him on it.

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November 17, 2009 7:10 PM    in reply to Bushie

I am a Michigan voter. While I recognize that the Hoekster is a self-aggrandizing zero-conscience top-secrets leaker of the first magnitude there are, very sadly, a good number of neos in this state that would/will vote for this walking joke.

I live in the deep-red heart of the state where there are still folks (some I'm directly related to) who thank their god that Bush the Lesser was here "to protect us" when the towers fell on his watch. And that says nothing about the southwest part of the state (e.g., Grand Rapids area — home and breeding ground of Gerald Ford) that will likely go totally his way in the upcoming election.

So, yes, Michigan is the home from which sprang Michael Moore, Robin Williams, Ellen Burstyn, Jeff Daniels and James Earl Jones, but it is also the state that spawned Ted Nugent and Charleton Heston (and, yes, Gerry Ford).

It could be a close election. We keep flipping back and forth between Dem and Rethug governors over time. (Hell, this place spawned Mitt Romney, whose dad George was governor back in the 60s; he was born in Detroit... .)

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November 17, 2009 7:16 PM    in reply to TheRealFish

Holy crap! How could I forget? This place spawned Bart Stupak too!

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November 17, 2009 8:17 PM    in reply to TheRealFish

You forgot Grand Rapids' own Dick DeVos. We came far too close to the precipice on that one.

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November 17, 2009 9:39 PM    in reply to TheRealFish

Don't forget Erik Prince in the southwestern MI wingnut list.

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November 18, 2009 8:13 AM    in reply to jeffgee

...and the Michigan Militia and Terry Nichols and the 2nd largest claven of the KKK in Mecosta during the 30s and the state government raping 2 term governor — 12 years — John Engler, a very proud soldier of the Reagan Revolution (whose farm is a 7 minute drive from my doorstep)...

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November 17, 2009 10:25 PM    in reply to TheRealFish

Hey now, don't lump Jerry Ford in with those guys. Jerry'd be rolling in his grave - he was far more moderate (as was Governor Milliken). He was also a fan of critical thinking, something sorely lacking in Hoekstra,DeVos, et al.

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November 18, 2009 8:14 AM    in reply to tspelczech

Pardoned. Nixon.

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November 18, 2009 9:43 AM    in reply to Bushie

Hoekstra has already cost Michigan jobs by just announcing his candidacy. By that I mean his campaign against using the prison at Standish, MI. Those jobs it seems will now be going to Illinois.

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November 17, 2009 6:37 PM   

This man should die!! He is an absolutel evil mother fucker.

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November 17, 2009 6:39 PM    in reply to lousgirl84

agreed...a death of political torture...dragged thru the streets of Michigan!

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November 17, 2009 8:00 PM    in reply to Obama1st

Tarred and feathered then hung by his balls.

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November 17, 2009 6:50 PM   

It was only a matter of time before one of the Rs spouted this bile. I'm surprised they waited this long.

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November 17, 2009 6:54 PM   

I call him the Intel Vending Machine.... leaker extraordinaire. Scumbag to the Nth degree.

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November 17, 2009 7:04 PM   

Hoekstra is an idiot. In Western Michigan they tell Dutchman jokes instead of Polish jokes. Hoekstra is the poster boy.

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November 17, 2009 7:17 PM   

You'd think that Hokey Hoekstra wouldn't jerk off so excitedly in public, but there he is flailing on his wiener and it's starting to smoke.

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November 17, 2009 7:24 PM   

Sadly, there are always people stupid enough to vote for these clowns. They don't seem to get how we're all laughing at anyone who would vote for this moron. These ignorant bastards are also forgetting a simple fact. Hasan showed signs of the crazy while under the Bush administration. He was promoted under the Bush administration and the people who even thought he was crazy never documented it so, when they FBI checked his files there was nothing there. Again, all this under Bush. This guy wanted out but, they wouldn't let him out and he murdered all of those innocent people but, for this ass to try and blame this on Obama is truely pathetic. The GOP has Obama Derangement Syndrome.

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November 17, 2009 7:52 PM   

Remember a few months ago when the GOP was going nuts over the Homeland security memo that suggested that we need to keep an eye on military vets who may become involved in terrorist activity. Imagine if the Obama Administration had called for scrutiny of our armed forces. I think that the outrage would have been huge. Now the horrible crimes at Fort Hood are somehow the Obama administrations fault. The double standards are mind boggling!

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November 17, 2009 7:53 PM   

Since Pete-ee should be under indictment soon for violation of the State Secrets Act by disclosing traveling diplomats exact locations in Iraq and other War Zones as well as compromising intelligence "methods and sources" in disclosing specifics on the telephone tracking of clerics in Yemen with regard the Fort Hood suspect, he's trying to deflect some of the pressure from himself. It won't work...The Federal Marshalls are coming for you moron.

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November 17, 2009 8:14 PM   

determine whether the intelligence community needs enhanced tools to combat terror

Except this wasn't terrorism. This was a premeditated attack on legitimate military targets - an act of war, not terror. If Republicans conflate the two, then they are making the argument that we are engaged in terrorism whenever we use our military for any purpose other than rendering humanitarian aid.

The Ft. Hood shooter is not a terrorist. As a commissioned officer in the United States Army, he is a traitor, and should stand trial in a court martial for treason.

KSM et al by comparison, are not 'war criminals' - they are not legitimate legal combatants engaging legitimate military targets - they are terrorists, and terrorism is fundamentally using acts of assault, murder, and mayhem to commit extortion. Civil courts are the correct venue for such criminal behavior.

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November 17, 2009 9:31 PM    in reply to BillMcD

"War on Terror", duh. They've got that covered.

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November 18, 2009 5:54 PM    in reply to BillMcD

Civilian courts, not civil (I don't think suing KSM, et al., for money will do any good).

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November 17, 2009 8:36 PM   

Never let it be said that republicans can never find a democrat(or a president)to blame for ANYTHING that happens on the face of the earth.

Pathetic. But realistic.

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November 17, 2009 9:21 PM   

Scum.

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November 17, 2009 9:31 PM   

Major Nidal Husan
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He killed a bunch of Army guy in cold blood
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And Prsident Obama gave a SHOUT OUT to his homey, "First of All"
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Then he went on a trip and left AG Holder in charge
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And AG Holder decided to be president and prepair for 9-11, 2010 style
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Barack Husan Obama
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November 18, 2009 8:23 AM    in reply to inokeah

That is indeed the thread of illogic the Hoekster (and many righties) follow — which reveals the depth of their cowardly and very anti-US-governmental reactions.

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November 17, 2009 10:35 PM   

Don't forget western Michigan also gave us the Michigan Militia (a haven to Tim McVeigh for a while), Blackwater (founder is from the Grand Haven/Muskegon hardcore Calvin community) and, worst of all, Amway. AMWAY!!!!!

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November 18, 2009 8:21 AM    in reply to calbearinillinois

Terry Nichols is from Lapeer, MI, and the MI Militia is where McV and Nichols linked up.

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November 18, 2009 4:18 PM    in reply to calbearinillinois

Not just Amway, but the Amway tool scam. Read about it here: http://tiny.cc/D5oJh and forward to everyone you know, so they don't get scammed as well.

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November 17, 2009 11:55 PM   

What's "evidence" got to do with the endless strategy of attacking Obama for everything?

Dog bites man – not news.

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November 18, 2009 12:10 AM   

Bush's people loved them some Hasan and didn't even use the tools they had to keep a record: internet chat up your favorite radical Imam known to have had contact with 9/11 terrorists and if you keep the topic clean you're in the clear.

The Republicans lack imagination about the possible actions of anybody but Democrats about whom they have the wildest fantasies.

Hoekstra needs to get a grip.

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November 18, 2009 1:03 AM   

Don't remember him mentioning this when he voted to fund these projects...
must have been an oversight. I also don't hear him taking blame for his voting to fund the military... despite the obvious serious flaws (according to him) now being uncovered (also by him).

Typical of the quality of BOTH parties now in office...

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November 18, 2009 2:15 AM   

The sooner we get rid of the jack-asses like Hoekstra. Leiberman, McConnell, McCain, Cantor, Boehner and the other bunch, the damned Democratic "moderate" (corporate-bribed) blue-dogs..the better..all they want to do is obstruct and block the Presdent at every turn and then claim that the Presdient is the one who is failing America, get back in power so they can finish handing US, OUR country and OUR government over to the Corporations to control......leaving us to the "mercy" of the greedy Wall Street International Corporations and Bankers...(now there's an oxymoron...mercy and Wall Street)

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November 18, 2009 2:17 AM   

The sooner we get rid of the jack-asses like Hoekstra. Leiberman, McConnell, McCain, Cantor, Boehner and the other bunch, the damned Democratic "moderate" (corporate-bribed) blue-dogs..the better..all they want to do is obstruct and block the President at every turn and then claim that the President is the one who is failing America, get back in power so they can finish handing US, OUR country and OUR government over to the Corporations to control......leaving us to the "mercy" of the greedy Wall Street International Corporations and Bankers...(now there's an oxymoron...mercy and Wall Street)

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November 18, 2009 12:45 PM   

Happened on their watch!!! Their watch!!!

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November 18, 2009 3:15 PM   

Terrorism? They must have forgotten Bush's classification of Terrorism that they worked so hard for before the 2004 election to show how acts of terrorism had gone down in Iraq: Terrorism is officially defined as actions against CIVLIIAN populations, and specifically NOT actions against the military.

So, by definition, all attacks, injuries, & deaths that happened at the recent Ft. Hood incident were NOT acts of terrorism.

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"...that the administration had restricted the use of crucial terror-fighting tools that could have been used to stop the attacks."

So they limited things that Dick Cheney could do? The voters did that, not the Obama Administration.

Didn't the largest terrorist attack to ever happen on US soil happen DURING the Dick Cheney era? While he was protecting us from terrorism? With that track record, I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it.

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November 18, 2009 4:20 PM   

Calbearin,

Not just Amway, but the Amway tool scam. Read about it here: http://tiny.cc/D5oJh and forward to everyone you know, so they don't get scammed as well.

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