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A top Republican political fund-raising and outreach firm gives convicted felons access to political donors' credit-card information, according to three former employees.

Minnesota-based FLS Connect uses low-wage workers to make fund-raising calls for a bevy of prominent GOP clients. And many of those workers -- including those responsible for processing credit-card transactions -- have felony convictions, the former employees said.

In response, FLS Connect co-founder Jeff Larson, a Karl Rove protege, told TPMmuckraker that the firm would undergo a review from an outside, independent auditor "to ensure the highest standard of confidence in our processes."

Last month, the founder of a different Republican outreach firm, Bonner & Associates, was hauled before Congress after his company sent forged letters to lawmakers on a key legislative issue. Nothing like that has come to light at FLS, but in interviews with TPMmuckraker, the former employees described a company whose business practices might come as a shock to the well-heeled Republican donors from whom it solicits money. FLS fundraisers, encouraged by supervisors to cut corners in pursuit of donations, routinely mislead potential contributors, say the former employees. And many workers in the company's Phoenix office are ex-cons, who are paid not much more than minimum wage, lack benefits, and work in squalid conditions.

The claim that ex-felons have access to credit-card information was first made by former FLS employee Brian Jones in an interview last week with the website Politics in Minnesota (PIM). Larson denied the charge to PIM.

But in interviews with TPMmuckraker, two other recent employees, Alicia Baca and David Childs, backed Jones up. And Jones himself, a former felon who was recently fired from FLS's Phoenix office, told us he stood by his claim. "He is just a liar," Jones, 37, said of Larson.

Baca, Childs, and Jones explained that when a donor agrees to contribute money by credit card, they're told that they'll be transferred to a supervisor to handle the transaction. But in fact, the three said, they're transferred to another FLS employee in the same room. That person has gone through only a cursory screening process, and in no way acts as a supervisor to the caller making the fundraising pitch. Indeed, they said, he generally earns less money than the fundraising caller.

Baca, 23, said she started working at FLS's Phoenix office in June 2008, making $10 an hour as a fundraiser. But because her numbers were below par, she was made a "validator" -- an employee who verifies credit-card information -- at which she earned $9 an hour. She said that because her boyfriend already worked at FLS when she applied, she was hired without even an interview, and no screening process. And when she became a validator, giving her access to credit-card information, no additional screening was conducted.

All three former employees described FLS's Phoenix office as a haven for ex-felons, in part because Arizona makes it difficult for people with criminal convictions to find jobs, and FLS has become well-known among the state's inmate population for its willingness to hire ex-cons. "My cell-mate from prison got out before me and told me" about the job, Jones said.

Jones and Baca both estimated independently that about 75 percent of employees in FLS's Phoenix office had felony convictions. Baca said she thought the majority of validators did. Said Jones: "It did surprise me that these are the people doing the fund-raising for the GOP."

None of the three said they ever witnessed any improper use of credit-card information by FLS employees, and Larson told PIM that the firm has never experienced credit-card fraud during its ten year history. He reiterated that claim in the statement to TPMmuckraker, which also announced plans for the audit.

Said Larson:

In 10 years in business, FLS Connect has never had an issue with credit cards being mishandled by anyone. Unfortunately, this is a case of a few disgruntled employees - one of whom lied on his application and was fired for manufacturing inaccurate statements - making misleading and false allegations about our company. The confidence of those we do business with is very important to us and while there are blatant falsehoods in the fictitious claims made against us, we want to ensure the highest standard of confidence in our processes. The work we provide is so critical that we have decided to undertake an internal and external audit of all our systems and processes to confirm we are providing the highest level of security and performance. This audit began last week and will include a review from an outside, independent auditor in the weeks to come.

Jones, who began working for FLS in February, was fired late last month by Larson personally -- though the two have never met. Jones says he angered a potential donor by making a claim she felt to be misleading. The donor, Jones said, was a friend of the Ohio Republican candidate on whose behalf Jones was calling. She complained to the candidate, who complained to Larson, who fired Jones, he said.

Jones denies that he lied on his application. Larson told PIM that Jones wrote "no" on a section that asked whether he had ever been convicted of a felony. Jones said he left it blank, as he was advised by prison officials to do when seeking a job.

FLS Connect has built a reputation as a power player in the world of Republican political organizing, running fundraising phone-banks and engineering negative robocalls on behalf of the McCain-Palin and Bush-Cheney campaigns, the RNC, the GOP Senate and congressional campaign committees, and the campaigns of numerous top Republicans, including Governors (and 2012 presidential hopefuls) Bobby Jindal and Tim Pawlenty, Senators Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, Jon Kyl, Bob Corker, Kit Bond, and George Voinovich, and Rep. Michele Bachmann. The FLS website used to boast an endorsement from Karl Rove: "I know these guys well. They become partners with the campaigns they work with." For his part, Larson is widely credited with leading the effort that attracted the 2008 Republican National Convention to St. Paul, Minnesota, and he the ran the host committee for the event.

The company, founded by Larson and two fellow GOP consultants, Tony Feather and Thomas Synhorst, is also no stranger to controversy (Synhorst is said no longer to be actively involved). Working on behalf of the McCain campaign, FLS was behind an onslaught of negative robo-calls last fall tying Barack Obama to Bill Ayers. The calls were so vicious and misleading that they were denounced even by some Republicans. In addition, former Minnesota senator Norm Coleman took heat last year for renting a room in Larson's Washington D.C. apartment at well below market value. And it was Larson who picked up the $130,000 tab for Sarah and Todd Palin's now-famous shopping spree to Neiman Marcus, Saks 5th Avenue, and other high-end stores. (Larson was later reimbursed by the RNC.)

The three former employees who spoke to TPMmuckraker described a corporate culture in which poorly-paid, overworked call-center employees were encouraged to do almost anything to convince their targets to contribute money. In order to appear motivated by genuine grassroots enthusiasm, callers regularly conveyed to potential donors that they were calling from the candidate's -- and the potential donor's -- home state, by saying things like, "I'm calling about our great state of Texas."

"We make it seem like you're calling on behalf of a state where you've never been before," said Jones. "If you were to start out: 'my name is Brian Jones, calling on behalf of FLS Connect in Minnesota, out of Phoenix,' you wouldn't make any money."

Said Baca: "They tried really hard not to let you know what state they were calling from." All three, however, said they were told that if asked their location, they must tell the truth.

In reality, not only were callers rarely located in the candidate's home state, they were only barely familiar with the candidate at all. "I know nothing about this guy," said Jones, describing his actual mindset in making a call. "I just learned about him. Is he conservative? I don't know."

Both Baca and Childs -- also an ex-felon -- said that fundraisers' calls were monitored twice a day by a company supervisor in Minnesota. But once those two monitored calls had occurred, on-site supervisors would tell callers, as Baca put it, "do what you have to do to get a pledge." That directive led to an even looser approach from callers. Baca said she had heard some tell potential donors, falsely, that they'd receive a signed picture of President Bush -- a draw in some circles, perhaps -- if they contributed.

Callers were told not to end the call without extracting a pledge. "The only way we could let someone go," Baca explained, "is if they had a family member die, if they had a doctor's appointment -- or if they were a Democrat."

As described by the former employees, working at FLS is tough and unrewarding. Many spend an eight hour day, with a few short breaks, making fundraising calls, and work every other Saturday. Baca's wages were typical: fundraisers start out at $10 per hour, validators (the fundraisers' nominal "supervisors") at $9.

Employees are eligible for health benefits only after a year of service. And because turnover is so high, thanks to the grueling nature of the work, few workers last that long. Jones said it was ironic that FLS workers were sometimes asked to pitch potential donors on the evils of health-care reform. "Most of us would want health-care," he said.

The Phoenix office itself is poorly maintained, according to Jones and Childs. Office furniture was falling apart, and "the bathroom was always nasty and gross," Childs said. "Working conditions were pretty bad."

Still, business for FLS Connect seems to be as brisk as ever. According to the firm's website, it's currently hiring "telephone service representatives" for its Phoenix and Minnesota offices: "High School diploma and/or some college a plus. No experience necessary."

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November 16, 2009 12:28 PM   

Q: What's the difference between a Republican and a convicted felon?

A: A day in court.

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November 16, 2009 12:45 PM   

Just to be clear on the issues, there's nothing wrong with hiring ex-felons. Since they're "ex", letting them work would seem a prerequisite to keeping them that way. The issues seem to be misleading donors, and mistreating workers. I know many people will be shocked that they're getting called by criminals, but please keep the focus where it needs to be.

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November 16, 2009 12:59 PM    in reply to ericf

And one reminder, because it bugged me this got so little attention last year: The Jeff Larson who runs FLS is the same lobbyist who got some spotlight for being so tight with Norm Coleman. Among his clients was the Burmese junta. During the controversy over whether Coleman got some free suits, almost no notice was paid to his buddy Larson being the dictators' man in DC.

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November 16, 2009 2:36 PM    in reply to ericf

all good points.

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November 16, 2009 5:04 PM    in reply to ericf

That's true, but at the very least you would want to check into just what felony they had been convicted of. You wouldn't want someone who had served time for stealing credit card information or for identity theft working at a job that required them to handle other people's credit card information. That would be like hiring an alcoholic to tend bar.

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November 16, 2009 5:59 PM    in reply to slb

none of which occurred to the reporter of this story, so it's not included, so it leaves the original point of the story to be that we should be scandalized by knowledge of the presence of felons in a place of work.

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November 16, 2009 8:41 PM    in reply to EH

none of which occurred to the reporter of this story, so it's not included

I beg to differ:

Baca, Childs, and Jones explained that when a donor agrees to contribute money by credit card, they're told that they'll be transferred to a supervisor to handle the transaction. But in fact, the three said, they're transferred to another FLS employee in the same room. That person has gone through only a cursory screening process...
She said that because her boyfriend already worked at FLS when she applied, she was hired without even an interview, and no screening process. And when she became a validator, giving her access to credit-card information, no additional screening was conducted.

If they're not screening people, then it means that they really don't care what kind of people they are asking to handle other people's money. That kind of sloppy hiring process makes it almost inevitable that they are a magnet for convicted felons if the state of Arizona makes it unusually difficult for them to find employment. (As if it wouldn't already be difficult for an ex-con to find any kind of job that paid a decent wage.)

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November 16, 2009 7:01 PM    in reply to ericf

To be clear, there is nothing wrong with hiring someone who has been convicted of a felony. The question I have is why are these people intentionally reaching out to ex-felons?

I somehow doubt that the motivation is helping people who are down on their luck or have had a bad shake of it. Other posts here have suggested that felons are easier to exploit. While this may be true, I don't think it would be all that difficult to find people willing to take $10/hr for making phone calls. My guess is that either they are hoping for the ex-felons to be willing to go beyond what your average person off the street would be willing to do (in terms of lies, distortion, etc.) or that if any claims of wrongdoing were made it would be easily shuffled off on the employee with the criminal record.

I've worked in sales for a while and have had a number of unseemly jobs in that field (never any good at keeping them, but then I guess I didn't really want them). Every "one call close" operation I was involved in (this type of fundraising easily qualifying) had a sales pitch which relied heavily on slightly veiled deception and emotional manipulation. Stuff that would most likely be deemed "intentionally misleading" if ever officially reviewed. Which makes me wonder, what are they doing that is so skeevy that they felt only felons would be willing to do it?

The "I'm handing you over to a supervisor to get your payment info" lie seems unnecessary ("let me transfer you to finance" is just as effective and more honest) and the "pretend you're from their state" is a venial sin, particularly if they are instructed to be honest if asked directly. What I am curious about is what was meant by "do what you have to to get the pledge". My guess is that the structure is such that senior fundraisers have an array of unseemly tricks for extracting money out of people that are taught to their unexperienced peers. I'm betting those tricks are what's of interest here. That's what might bring down the firm if it got out.

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November 16, 2009 1:25 PM   

Yo Yo Yo ( sounds like another Obama lexicon )
Lets send a Shout Out to my brother van Jones,
remember him? ExCon and in the Obama Whitehouse.
Let see, this kind of person is ok for the presidnet but not for the GOP.
Let see who the "Two Face" is here?

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November 16, 2009 1:39 PM    in reply to inokeah

In 1992, while still a law student at Yale, Jones participated as a volunteer legal monitor for a protest of the Rodney King verdict in San Francisco. He and many other participants in the protest were arrested. The district attorney later dropped the charges against Jones.

Just in case your reading skills are deficient, let me emphasize:

The district attorney later dropped the charges against Jones.

Go back to RedSTate, troll.

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November 16, 2009 1:56 PM    in reply to CT Voter

Yeah, like exoneration or aquittal in court means anything to your Average Republican Troll-ish moron.

If you've been arrested, that's all that matters... you're cooked. And if you're black on top of that? Oh boy.

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November 16, 2009 3:16 PM    in reply to lyleleander

what does that say about TPM demonizing people who have paid their debt to society?

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November 16, 2009 5:09 PM    in reply to EH

Who is being demonized? The criticism here is that the GOP is outsourcing its fundraising to a concern that apparently does little or no background checking of the people it hires, a practice that puts the GOP's donors at risk.

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November 16, 2009 6:07 PM    in reply to slb

The criticism here is that the GOP is outsourcing its fundraising to a concern that apparently does little or no background checking of the people it hires, a practice that puts the GOP's donors at risk.

No it isn't, and if it is in some way, it's a buried lede. The headline would also be misleading if your interpretation is true.

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November 16, 2009 8:43 PM    in reply to EH

It wouldn't be the first time the headline and the story were mismatched around here.

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November 16, 2009 4:57 PM    in reply to lyleleander

Except, of course, when it's a Republican like Scooter Libby who was actually convicted. Then they accuse the justice system of being "unfair", excuse the felon and have right wing think tanks give him awards! Complete unmitigated hypocrisy.

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November 16, 2009 2:56 PM    in reply to inokeah

Another yet reminder of how childish and bigoted the average republican internet user is.

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November 16, 2009 1:26 PM   

That's a good point about Coleman, I recall that there were stories that his donor list was NOT kept secure. Has anyone heard if the feds are looking into this defeated POS?

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November 16, 2009 4:27 PM    in reply to MichiganMark

I"m not sure and I couldn't find anything searching just now, but I think nothing came of it. Maybe there was a fine. Being in Minnesota, I can tell you that once Coleman concede, he dropped from the headlines except for speculation he might run for governor.

Though I expect him to seek a senate rematch. Just my gut, and mostly my gut, he won't try for Klobuchar's seat because the Republicans want to run Bachmann.

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November 17, 2009 8:08 AM    in reply to MichiganMark

@Michigan Mark

You remember correctly. Coleman's web infrastructure and donor lists were managed by FLS. Back in early 2009, it was discovered that a spreadsheet containing donor names and credit card numbers was left wide open on the net. Coleman's organization claimed hacking. That claim was debunked.

FLS, Feather-Larson and all of their syndicates are bad actors in the political system.

Not to be overlooked, Larson was the Executive Director of the 2008 GOP Convention in Minneapolis. That put him in charge of fundraising, and that role, curiously, is allowed by FEC rules to accept corporate dollars (non PAC, but actually corporate treasury funds). Do you think Larson was honest with where those Corporate dollars went?@Michigan Mark

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November 16, 2009 1:50 PM   

Except for the potential danger to their credit cards, why would Republicans object to a business abusing and/or exploiting their employees for the lowest possible pay? Wouldn't they just consider it good business?

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November 16, 2009 2:07 PM    in reply to Powkat

many workers in the company's Phoenix office are ex-cons, who are paid not much more than minimum wage, lack benefits, and work in squalid conditions.
Sounds like the ideal business model for conservatives to me.

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November 16, 2009 1:52 PM   

There are no cases of suspected credit card fraud or losses reported by donors, so why harp on their employment of ex-felons. That should be a good thing, not something to batter them with. Too many former felons give up and go back to crime because of attitudes like this - assuming that they cannot be trusted and should not be employed. In fact, that sort of no-room-for-rehabilitation damn-them-forever attitude is something I expect from Republicans, not from progressives.

Remember the appalling attacks on ACORN for employing former felons to register voters? This is NO BETTER.

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November 16, 2009 2:10 PM    in reply to Oregon Activist

Thanks, Oregon Activist and ericf, for pointing out the hypocrisy in equating ex-felon with lies and nasty bathrooms. Zach, you can do better.

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November 16, 2009 2:43 PM    in reply to fiddler

TPM is pretty tenacious in tracking the apologies of public figures, maybe they're looking for a way to get in on the action.

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November 16, 2009 2:16 PM    in reply to Oregon Activist

I agree that the headline focused on the wrong issue since I have no problem with hiring ex-felons either (as long as there are adequate security protocols to protect credit card information). But the squalid conditions and the misleading solicitations are outrageous. People working at a job like that should at the very least have clean bathrooms. Employer-provided health care would be good, too.

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November 16, 2009 3:04 PM    in reply to Oregon Activist

"There are no cases of suspected credit card fraud or losses reported by donors, so why harp on their employment of ex-felons."

Just two points, the only person who indicated there's never been fraud at the firm is one of the co-founders, who's proximity to Carl Rove should automatically put him in the lying list. Second, there's no problem hiring an ex-felon... unless, of course, you're hiring them for a job directly related to their prior crime. This is why day-care centers need to check the Megan's Law database before potentially hiring a pedofile who'd already done their time. Similarly, you wouldn't want a bus driver with a history of drunk driving.

In this case, it's absolutely wrong to hire someone with a history of, say, credit card fraud, identity theft, or any other property-theft crime. That's negligence for endangering both your customers and putting the ex-con in a position where they're tempted to recidivate and get thrown back in jail.

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November 16, 2009 8:46 PM    in reply to Jaycal

Exactly.

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November 16, 2009 3:22 PM    in reply to Oregon Activist

Speaking to the ex-con issue, I would hope that we'd all agree that allowing someone convicted of felony fraud or ID theft might not make for the best candidate for one of these jobs. If FLS is not even screening for these types of ex-cons, then I believe the question is not if have there been any problems, but when will they happen.

And even if I'm entirely wrong about that, can someone explain the logic of having the credit-card information handled by an employee who has been *demoted* to the position? People working $9 & $10/hour jobs don't have much to lose, & after watching the money fly across their desk at a rate of several thousand dollars an hour, they might start looking for a way to skim off some of that money. The only difference between having an ex-con & someone else in that position would be that an ex-con might have the experience to how to do it.

And as for the working conditions themselves... speaking from experience, all call center jobs suck; IMHO, the strategy to making a call center work is to make the working conditions as pleasant as possible. If I discovered my place of work had such poor working conditions, the only question about how long I would stay is whether I quit on the first or second day.

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November 16, 2009 2:09 PM   

Rich Republicans employ ex-felons at dirt cheap wages and with no health care benefits to raise money from other rich Republicans to fight expanding access to health care.

The only way they could improve the business model is to run it from a privately run for profit publicly funded prison and have the inmates do the calls for $.25 an hour. (Arizona is trying to privatize all its prisons)

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November 16, 2009 6:09 PM    in reply to NobleCommentDecider

You think Democrats don't?

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November 16, 2009 7:16 PM    in reply to EH

Democrats are not fighting health care reform, Republicans are... and don't blather with the 'we all do it' trollish bullshit.

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November 16, 2009 2:20 PM   

I'm with Oregon Activist and ericf as to the slant of the story that somehow hiring ex-cons is a bad idea. Also not a fan that the part about no fraud was buried so late in the story. I thought TPM knew better than to do this sort of stuff. The low-wages and squalid conditions are the hook of the story here. That and the fact that the people behind the firm deserve to be in jail themselves.

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November 16, 2009 2:40 PM    in reply to g_k_d

TPM is self-linking this story three ways from tuesday, so i imagine we're going to be hearing a lot more of this in the coming days.

i don't like it when people i tend to otherwise agree with politically engage in hypocritical partisanship such as i've read here. i thought we were supposed to be better than aping that which we criticize.

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November 16, 2009 3:12 PM    in reply to g_k_d

Again, the only person reporting no fraud is the company's co-founder, who also all but admitted they've never had an outside audit in more than 10 years in business. I know this doesn't mean much to Republicans, at least at their own companies, but the issue about reliable controls is real.

Hiring ex-cons isn't a bad practice, but FLS can't even verify that those hired didn't have a history of credit card fraud.

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November 16, 2009 3:47 PM    in reply to g_k_d

Agree that the people **running** this company should be in jail.

The way that I read the article, these ex-offenders would not be working for this crappy outfit if they had better options. Maybe Zack needed to highlight the part about 'Arizona being a tough employment state for ex-offenders' a bit more.

Clearly, if these people who have evidently 'done their time' are being taken advantage of by the very people who profit from the privatizing of prisons, jails, law enforcement, and every other 'public good'.

If these ex-offenders had better options, it's pretty clear they would not be working for this outfit.

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November 16, 2009 2:45 PM   

Yes, but Acorn. and Hitler Death Panels!

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November 16, 2009 2:47 PM   

Zachary Roth seems to believe that ex-felons shouldn't be allowed to work, at least at any job where individual "private" information is available. That takes out a good part of the American job market. Opposing low wages and misleading solicitations is another matter.

Someone remarks that Roth can do better. No, this sort of "muckraking" garbage - politicians' sex lives and celebrating the passage of women-hating "health reform" is the usual - is the direction TPM has been headed for awhile.

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November 16, 2009 3:31 PM    in reply to romath

Ask any auditor what the risks are of hiring a felon and letting them perform a job that handles money. Being a felon is a clear risk factor for theft.

A good screening process that evaluates what the felony was and controls that protect the sensitive information can overcome the risk of hiring a felon.

Neither screening nor controls appear to have been in place here. Another typical Republican and conservative cost-cutting measure. See a risk factor and assume guilt. But hire a friend or friend of a friend (one of "us") then overlook and conceal corruption.

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November 16, 2009 3:04 PM   

I echo the points raised by Oregon Activist, ericf, and g_k_d. I work with an organization called All of Us or None in California, which is an organizing initiative started by people who have been in prison. Our goal is full restoration of the civil and human rights of formerly incarcerated people, and an end to the discrimination that prisoners, former prisoners, and our family members face every day.
Assuming that folks at TPM are interested in being better allies to folks coming out of prison, here are a couple changes that would be steps in that direction:
1) The writer is going after the GOP for hiring "ex-felons." In the U.S. right now, the deck is stacked against people coming out of prison: based on conviction histories, people can be prevented from receiving government aid such as housing assistance, food stamps, and even student loans. In addition, just the question "Have you ever been convicted of a crime?" on a job application is enough to discourage many people with conviction histories from submitting the application.
As a result of the work of All of Us or None, several cities and counties in the San Francisco Bay Area have changed their hiring policies to a) eliminate this question from the initial application, and b) consider an applicant's conviction history later in the application process - but only as it relates to the job being applied for.
2) Because terms like "ex-con," "felon," and "ex-felon" are so loaded, we prefer to use the term "formerly incarcerated."

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November 16, 2009 8:53 PM    in reply to Sasha

I have no problem with that; but this outfit is not doing any screening at all, nor are they having any outside auditing done. That's just plain negligent.

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November 17, 2009 1:54 PM    in reply to Sasha

Unqualified applause for you. I used to work with too many veterans doing life on the installment plan because they gave up trying to find a decent job on the outside.

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November 16, 2009 4:25 PM   

"The only way we could let someone go," Baca explained, "is if they had a family member die, if they had a doctor's appointment -- or if they were a Democrat."

Just stop me from hanging up on you. Please.

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November 16, 2009 4:27 PM   

Murderous, terrorist bomber, Communist Bill Ayers has close ties to Obama and 8 people in the White House. See the proof here:
http://www.commieblaster.com/bill_ayers/index.html

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November 16, 2009 4:41 PM    in reply to CommieBlaster

I can't tell if this is for real or a parody. Anybody?

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November 16, 2009 4:50 PM    in reply to Powkat

just blogspam. it's his site.

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November 16, 2009 5:05 PM   

Rove and his proteges are a bottomless pit of lies and dirty tricks.

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November 16, 2009 5:36 PM   

I thought everyone knew that Republicans use some equivalent of slave labor in the form of prison telemarketing teams to raise money for a number of nefarious GOP purposes. This was revealed a decade ago on HBO's prison series OZ.

This should surprise no one.

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November 16, 2009 6:59 PM   

Baradck is a coonvicted felon..

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November 16, 2009 7:06 PM   

I resent completely the idea that ex cons should not be hired to do fundraising. Pre-cons are pretty likely, too. Excons need to work and are especially in need of work since they have a record and are categorized just like this article so sincerely attempts to do.

In America, we have a habit of once somebody hits the dirt, we step all over him and refuse to let him up. It's shameful.

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November 17, 2009 7:14 AM    in reply to larrybum

Make real sure. Silver nails.

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November 17, 2009 7:16 AM    in reply to larrybum

Was supposed to be in reply to CSC "Party is dead"...

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November 16, 2009 8:36 PM   

Is it weird or new that a GOP political firm would put profits in the short term over succeeding in their political ambitions in the long? CSC has predicted that the Republican Party is dead.

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November 16, 2009 10:53 PM   

I'm not sure, but I might have worked at this outfit in Phoenix as a temp for about 2 hours. I was hired by a computer programmer to help integrate 3 or 4 separate data bases with different coding into one master list.

I went over to her after about an hour of listening to the unending right wing nit wit hustling and told her, "Sorry, I refuse to work with these kind of people."

She said, "I was hired by their accountant and signed a contract with their attorney before I was in this office or I wouldn't be here. I'll call your agency and tell them that it was my fault."

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November 17, 2009 7:47 AM   

But . . . ACORN! ACORN! O, won't somebody think of the Republicans!

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November 17, 2009 8:07 AM   

As usual, the hypocracy is thick.

Convicts. The party of 'law and order', which promotes long-term incarceration of minorities for minor infractions, has no qualms about using them once they come out of the joint. What a lovely feudal concept.

Homosexuality. Tony Feather (one of the FLS head honchos, the "f"), is gay. Yet he has no qualms about running a business which made most of its nickels during Bush while gay bashing.

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