How did Maurice Clemmons, once sentenced to 100 years in prison in Arkansas, end up a free man and the prime suspect in the grisly killing of four Seattle area police officers Sunday?
Clemmons' story begins with a teenage crime spree, winds through his years as a young man spent behind bars and the commutation of his life sentence by Mike Huckabee, continues with more years in and out of prison and the degeneration of his mental state, and finally leaves off today with a massive search for a man police describe as armed and dangerous.
The story carries potentially big political ramifications for possible presidential contender Huckabee, who is now trying to deflect criticism of the commutation to the state parole board. That's in part because Huckabee's effort to downplay his role in the Clemmons commutation echoes his response in the case of another Arkansas parolee who went on to commit a gruesome crime.
A May 1989 incident in which Clemmons, then 17, was caught with a gun at a Little Rock school appears to have been his first run in with the police. The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette quoted him telling police that he had the gun because he had "been chased and beaten by dopers, and if they got after him again he had something for them" (via Nexis).
Starting almost immediately after his expulsion from school for the gun incident, Clemmons took part in a series of burglaries that landed him in prison. In one late-night incident, a middle-aged woman was hit in the face and Clemmons and another teen snatched her purse. He made the news again when he hid a 10-inch metal bar in his sock before a pretrial hearing, and once again when a padlock he threw at a bailiff hit Clemmons' own mother.
For these and other crimes, the young Clemmons received in 1989-90 remarkably harsh -- arguably excessive -- sentences adding up to 108 years, by the Arkansas Times' count.
By the time then-governor Huckabee was mulling a plea for clemency in 2000, Clemmons had spent roughly a decade behind bars, and he pledged he was a changed man. As governor, Huckabee granted pardons and commutations much more than most. According to ABC, many believed it was a religious issue for Huckabee, a Baptist minister.
Thus it made strategic sense that Clemmons stressed his faith in a letter (.pdf) to Huckabee, obtained by the Seattle Times:
Clemmons said he came from "a very good Christian family" and "was raised much better than my actions speak (I'm still ashamed to this day for the shame my stupid involvement in these crimes brought to my family name.)," he wrote."Where once stood a young (16) year old misguided fool, who's (sic) own life he was unable to rule. Now stands a 27 year old man, who has learned through 'the school of hard knocks' to appreciate and respect the rights of others. And who has in the midst of the harsh reality of prison life developed the necessary skills to stand along (sic) and not follow a multitude of do evil, as I did as a 16 year old child."
Clemmons added that his mother had recently died without seeing him turn his life around and that he prayed Huckabee would show compassion by releasing him.
In May 2000, citing Clemmons' youth at the time of his crimes, Huckabee commuted the sentence to 47 years, making Clemmons eligible for parole. The board granted parole in July and Clemmons was released in August, but a year later he was back in prison for another Arkansas robbery. He got a 10-year sentence but in 2004 Clemmons was paroled again. He soon moved to Washington State.
For several years after the move, he apparently avoided run-ins with the police. He next landed in jail earlier this year on a second-degree child rape charge -- sex with a minor between the ages of 12 and 14. Just a week before the alleged shooting Sunday, Clemmons got out on $150,000 bail, secured through a bail bondsman. Evidence unearthed in the rape investigation showed an increasingly troubled man who thought he could fly and that President Obama would visit to "confirm that he is the Messiah in the flesh," according to the Seattle Times.
There are many decision points in Clemmons' path through the criminal justice system on which blame arguably could, in hindsight, be cast. As the Arkansas Times' Max Brantley points out, however, "everything that came after, including Clemmons' speedy release, flows from [Huckabee's] decision."
But Huckabee has sought to place responsibility for the commutation -- which, though all the facts are not known, may well have been perfectly reasonable -- on the shoulders of the parole board, whose members he appointed and which played a role secondary to the governor himself.
As Ben Smith points out, this isn't the first time we've seen Huckabee point to the formal role of the board when a parolee reoffends. The case of Wayne DuMond, which became a problem during Huckabee's run for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, presents a different set of facts, but a similar response from Huckabee.
Convicted of rape in the 1980s, DuMond was paroled in 1997 after Huckabee, who had declined to commute the sentence, lobbied the parole board to free DuMond. Huckabee has persistently denied a role in the board's decision, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. After his parole, DuMond went on to kill at least one woman in Missouri.
Huckabee is set to appear on the O'Reilly Factor tonight, and scrutiny of his decision will no doubt intensify in the coming days.
Below are the set of Clemmons' parole and clemency documents, posted by the Seattle Times. Let us know in the comments if you see anything of note:
Maurice Clemmons' Parole And Clemency Docs, via Seattle Times

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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
November 30, 2009 5:33 PM
How the hell did he come up with the 15K necessary to meet meet a 150,000 bond? And there's plenty of stupid to go around. Why in the world would a judge set a measly 150K bond for an accused child rapist who was a pretty obvious flight risk?
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Overreach THIS!
December 1, 2009 12:33 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
The judge had a self-confident, bible-thumping, and largely incoherent interview on Anderson Cooper BTW. It will produce a shitstorm of rightful criticism.
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bracken
December 1, 2009 10:17 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Link, please?
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Overreach THIS!
December 1, 2009 12:44 PM in reply to bracken
If you have the stamina, you can catch it beginning at around 11 and a half minutes and hear about "Our Lord Jesus Christ" from the learned judge...
http://podcasts.cnn.net/cnn/big/podcasts/ac360/video/2009/12/01/cooper.podcast.monday.cnn.m4v
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cocheese
December 1, 2009 10:43 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
I don't disagree with Huckabee's decision, at least not as it was explained in the article. I think the broader question that we should be addressing is the bias against the mentally ill, and the fact that the most common way of dealing with them is prison.
A poor solution to a major problem.
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Johann
December 2, 2009 11:04 AM in reply to cocheese
Are you suggesting that Huckabee is mentally ill?
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:14 PM in reply to cocheese
You've not delved into the issue sufficently. Beyond the fact that Huckabee appointed the members of the parole board, he also intervened in order to get two -- Clemmons the second of them -- released. The first went on to rape and murder several women.
In short: Huckabee isn't only pointing his finger away from himself, it also appears he might have violated the law in doing so.
Exactly what we need in national office: a my-responsibility-is-actually-someone-elses' exempt-from-man's-law Christian hypocrite.
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:10 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Did you see the name of the bailbond company? --
"Jail Sucks".
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rbeats
November 30, 2009 5:34 PM
When people like Huckabee, who look too "God" for guidance on such decisions, and they play out like this, it really should just serve as yet another example of why grown men or woman who derive their advice from fairy tales written by bigoted, misogynistic, scientifically illiterate men should never come into a position of power in the 21st century.
Might as well pull his back molars out and put them under his pillow to help the budget crisis out in his home state.
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mikedrevguy
November 30, 2009 6:04 PM in reply to rbeats
Good question - we need be careful when turning to God, HOly Spirit, Great Architect, Allah, Jehovah, (whomever) that we are turn to THEM and not the image of them that we've created.
The issue is: the forgiveness that GovHuck sought to extend was not his to extend and was therefore very much a self-serving act that was not OF divine inspiration.
my .02
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JNagarya
November 30, 2009 10:27 PM in reply to mikedrevguy
We should turn to "If It/They exist/s"?
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mikedrevguy
December 17, 2009 1:10 PM in reply to JNagarya
Even in turning to 'nothing' we need be careful that it's not simply a reflection of our own emptiness.
No prob, JN - grace abounds.
Merry Christmas
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JNagarya
December 17, 2009 1:55 PM in reply to mikedrevguy
And we should be careful to project as "God" our being full of presumptuous shit.
As the Firesign Theatre would underscore:
"The Church of the Presumptuous Assumption".
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mikedrevguy
December 19, 2009 11:41 AM in reply to JNagarya
Ah, tis the season for Peace, Love, and Joy. Blessings to you in this new year
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NewsNag
November 30, 2009 11:40 PM in reply to mikedrevguy
Well, yes and no, Mr. Religious Person. You are right that Huckabee only thinks he can consult a divine being, but you are wrong in that you think that it is possible at all.
Superstition sucks, as does belief in superstition, which is what Christians believe in. Sorry, but somebody has to tell ya. But don't worry, it's not terminal. You can always leave the things of childhood behind, grow up, and come to your real senses.
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:22 PM in reply to NewsNag
The only honest Christian theologian I've read is Soren Kierkegaard:
1. He challenged Christian theologians to take the risk of being objective: begin with the question, "Is there a God?" instead of beginning with the premise, "There is a God -- and now watch me prove my presmie."
2. One cannot know the mind of God. The human capacity for knowing -- if it even exists -- is finite. The mind of God is infinite.
Nonetheless, I don't know enough to be an atheist. And, equally, I don't know enough to be a believer who dispenses with faith and calls belief "knowledge".
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libdevil
November 30, 2009 6:19 PM in reply to rbeats
This sort of thing points out the fundamental dishonesty of religious fanatics. When something turns out good, you know the Huckster is going to be praising God. "I pardoned this man, and through the grace of God he went on to be a paramedic, and heroically saved an innocent child today." You'll never, ever hear the opposite. "Well, I pardoned this man, and God made him go kill 4 cops." Being God in these folks' theology is a pretty sweet gig - you don't have to do anything but you get all the credit when things are good, and no matter how bad things get screwed up, it's never your fault. Actually, that kinda sounds like the job description of a Republican politician, too. Coincidence?
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biged242
December 1, 2009 12:36 AM in reply to libdevil
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/mother_teresa_sent_to_hell_in
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elle a
November 30, 2009 8:23 PM in reply to rbeats
this is quite nice.
because one man makes bad decisions based on his religious beliefs, therefore all religion is suspect or a fairy tale?
please.
huckabee should not have made such decisions based on his religious beliefs because he was elected governor and expected to make decisions based on the law, not religious belief.
using this incident as an excuse to bash religion is just pathetic.
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JNagarya
November 30, 2009 10:30 PM in reply to elle a
because one man makes bad decisions based on his religious beliefs, therefore all religion is suspect or a fairy tale?
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Yes, as should be obvious: because "religious beliefs" is the basis for the bad decisions.
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slb
December 1, 2009 2:05 AM in reply to JNagarya
But how does one man's possibly mistaken understanding of his religion translate into an indictment of ALL religion? If someone used a mistaken understanding of science as the basis for what turned out to be a bad decision, does that invalidate all science?
I agree with elle, using this as an excuse to (yet again!) bash religion is pathetic. This tragedy is the result of human error and should be treated as such.
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JNagarya
December 1, 2009 3:18 AM in reply to slb
As an adult I am not a sucker. I am skeptical, especially of claims of having a monopoly on Truth and yet getting it so wrong.
And science -- not being r"religion," therefore not based on faith -- is the practice of skepticism.
"Religion" has, for thousands of years, made the Middle East the bloodiest acreage on the planet. All in the name of peace. All in the name of opposition to killing.
That evidence doesn't do much to support either your defense of "religion" qua "religion," or your unquestioning faith -- gullibility -- that "religion" can be taken as legitimate, and sincere, without first determining whether it should be taken as such.
In short: I refuse to be stupid, even if that refusal results in pseudo-offense to the delicate feelings of those who defend the indefensible as, "Gee, it might be true," even though obviously -- glaringly -- erroneous.
It never ceases to amze, or disappoint, that the steadiest flood of lying comes from the religiofaction -- all in the name of "Thou shalt not lie," and telling everyone else how they must live their lives.
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Johann
December 2, 2009 11:10 AM in reply to JNagarya
""Religion" has, for thousands of years, made the Middle East the bloodiest acreage on the planet. All in the name of peace."
That really makes sense when you consider that the "Peace which passeth all understanding" is really death.
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NewsNag
November 30, 2009 11:44 PM in reply to elle a
What's pathetic is your desire to absolve the fact that your religion played a bit part in the murders of these policemen, and instead blame it on the sinner, Huckabee. I think you should own up to the omnipotence of your god and support his decision to have the paroled psychopath kill four policemen. What kind of religious person doesn't get 100% behind what his or her god is responsible for. After all, isn't your god the all-powerful god of the universe? And don't give me that "free will" B.S. Is your god god or not? If it's god, then he can control everything. Otherwise, it's not god.
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:08 PM in reply to NewsNag
I religiously watch football for those special moments when a player gets the ball and scores a touchdown.
He invariably gives credit to "the Lawd".
But if he fumbles, and doesn't score, it's his own fault.
Religion as rationale for self-hatred.
"God" as the ultimate skapegoat.
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kenga
December 1, 2009 4:53 PM in reply to elle a
Wait - are you speaking of Huckabee, or the alleged murderer?
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neesy08
November 30, 2009 9:05 PM in reply to rbeats
i wondered that myself. perhaps his parents used their home? anyway, huckabee is in dead dodo now. he has to try to explain this away. and it won't be easy as there are two people that hucklebee gave clemency to that contined on their lawlessness after their release. this makes him appear to be soft on crime, and as a repub, that is not good
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JNagarya
November 30, 2009 10:33 PM in reply to neesy08
It makes him look really, really, really stupid and incompetent. Like a fool. Worse: like a Palin.
Makes him look like a Republican.
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Stoneking
November 30, 2009 6:10 PM
Assuming, for the moment, that the initial sentences should have been for his multiple sentences to be served concurrently, not consecutively, and that Clemmons' release in 2000 was not grossly inappropriate, it is still very bad form for former Gov. Huckabee to pass the buck to the Board. From a public-relations standpoint, he could have handled this much better. What ever happened to personal responsibility? Isn't that what the righties constantly preach? Blaming his hand-picked parole board for this decision is disingenuous, at best, and, well, chickenshit, too.
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Matt Jones
November 30, 2009 6:22 PM in reply to Stoneking
As most strongly demonstrated in Caribou Barbie's recent book, the new Republican ideal is personal responsibility for everyone BUT Republicans.
For bonus points, count how many pundits who run around making excuses for Huck jumped all over the Willie Horton thing years ago. I would recommend making it a drinking game, but alcohol poisoning isn't pleasant... :)
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realist
November 30, 2009 6:49 PM in reply to Matt Jones
You must have seen George Jones pickin' and grinnin' on Huckmadinejad's show a month or so ago.
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CVille Dem
November 30, 2009 7:18 PM in reply to Stoneking
One of his sentences for ONE crime was 92 years.
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fitley
November 30, 2009 6:15 PM
I have to say I admire Huck's compassion, especially since he represents a party full of sexual perverts and bigots. But I would rather see 100 harmless pothead atheists set free than one extremely violent bible thumper. The outcome is extremely sad.
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traitorjoe
November 30, 2009 6:34 PM
How many thousands of tea baggers would have descended upon Washington if Obama pardoned this man? How many hours of coverage would Fox News and Rush devoted to this case?
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absurdity 007
November 30, 2009 6:42 PM
I agree if the shoe was on a Democrat's foot,....it would be a big deal on Fox,....but I can't bring myself to blame Huckabee for having compassion. It's a sad sad story for the officers' families that shouldn't be exploited for political purposes.
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moodpost
November 30, 2009 7:35 PM in reply to absurdity 007
I have to agree. I might have reduced this sentence if I had been governor. It seems excessive.
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JNagarya
November 30, 2009 10:37 PM in reply to absurdity 007
"Compassion" is NOT spelled S-T-U-P-I-D.
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JNagarya
November 30, 2009 10:41 PM in reply to JNagarya
So Huckabee is admirable for taking responsibility for his compassion -- or at least for claiming to be compassionate -- while blaming others for the consequences of his compassion?
Is it compassionate (let alone moral) to blame others for one's own fuck-ups?
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rynato
November 30, 2009 10:47 PM in reply to JNagarya
I am not a lock-em-all-up-and-throw-away-the-key-forever type, but it sure sounds like Huckabee leaned too far the other way. EVERY prisoner is a born-again Christian, aren't they? The Bible changed my life, etc.
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JNagarya
December 1, 2009 1:04 AM in reply to rynato
That's why I think "religion" should be kept out of prisons, away from a captive audience wanting out. It only provides irrational deceits as cover for the persisting underlying irrationalities which justified criminality.
What inmates need is legitimate education --- "Here's How to Do Logic" -- instead of more oppressive, stupefying dope.
Huckabee went beyond leaning too far in one direction in the first of his fuck-ups: he ignored everything -- all the facts, even the warnings of the prosecutors -- in order to rely on the misrepresentations of a NY newspaper columnist, and some sort of minister.
He doesn't look that stupid. And he even sounds as if he isn't that stupid. But he obviously is that stupid.
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traitorjoe
November 30, 2009 6:45 PM
Most of us are not blaming Huckabee, we are blaming the Right-Wing Noise Machine for being so blatantly hypocritical. They would have called for Obama's impeachment over this and the MSM would have reported it as "a groundswell of grassroots support by millions of Americans to impeach President Obama."
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JNagarya
December 22, 2009 7:08 PM in reply to traitorjoe
They would call him "Mr. Obama".
Every notice how frequent that demontion?
How often did they call Bushit "Mr. Bush" when he was illegally squating in the White House?
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DaveJ
November 30, 2009 6:55 PM
I'll flat out say it: this marks the end of Huckabee's 2012 aspirations. In fact, all future aspirations. The ads write themselves: "Mike Huckabee set free a man who went on to violently murder four police officers. Can we trust Mike Huckabee's judgement? Would you trust Mike Huckabee to make the right decisions to protect your family?" I mean, this is Willie Horton x 4. He'll never make it out of another primary.
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Walter Mitty
November 30, 2009 7:29 PM in reply to DaveJ
Let the Republican Primary handle it. All that this means is that Palin will not have to split the evangelical vote with Huckabee and thus gives her a better chance given GOP's winner take all primaries. I still don't expect Palin to ever run again though, because a rousing rejection would kill her earning power.
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MarkOfOhio
December 1, 2009 5:16 AM in reply to Walter Mitty
Nothing will kill Palin's earning power. Her worshippers are very loyal, and they don't care what she says or does.
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:33 PM in reply to MarkOfOhio
Yeah, but even her followers will get bored after awhile and move on to the next circus sideshow.
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wial
November 30, 2009 7:14 PM
Would someone please explain to me why this guy wasn't in a hospital for the criminally insane? He displayed obvious, classic symptoms. Or has the right reached the point they don't consider believing oneself to be the messiah with a direct channel to the White House a marker of insanity anymore?
Oh.
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CVille Dem
November 30, 2009 7:21 PM in reply to wial
By that assessment, Sarah Palin should be involuntarily committed as well.
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Walter Mitty
November 30, 2009 7:44 PM in reply to CVille Dem
Brilliant.
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Overreach THIS!
December 1, 2009 12:27 AM in reply to CVille Dem
Yes, thank you for that!
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Hussein Stemper
November 30, 2009 7:21 PM
One wrongful pardon, OK. Two, you start thinking "pattern" (or, "revolving door").
Surely tonight Bill O' won't judge the Huckster by different standards than those by which he judged Dukakis two decades ago -- that would be "moral relativism," which I hear the GOP is firmly against.
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Maritza
November 30, 2009 7:30 PM
I actually understand Huckabee commuting the sentence of 95 years for a 17 year old.
However, once the man did another crime he should have stayed longer in the slammer.
In California we have a "3 strikes you are out" law and this person would have been in prison for life BEFORE he killed those 4 officers.
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Walter Mitty
November 30, 2009 7:46 PM in reply to Maritza
Three strikes is far from perfect...
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traitorjoe
November 30, 2009 8:00 PM in reply to Walter Mitty
Walter, I believe you need 12 strikes for a perfect game.
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Johann
December 2, 2009 11:18 AM in reply to traitorjoe
That's only in bowling.
In baseball you don't need any.
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slb
December 1, 2009 2:15 AM in reply to Maritza
I actually understand Huckabee commuting the sentence of 95 years for a 17 year old.
However, once the man did another crime he should have stayed longer in the slammer.
Exactly -- and that's the part I don't understand. Once he violated his parole (as he obviously had to have done to commit another robbery), then wouldn't his parole have been revoked, and wouldn't he have been sent to prison to serve the remainder of that 47-year sentence? How was it he was paroled AGAIN after another couple of years?
This is not to say that Huckabee doesn't have some measure of responsibility, but it seems to me that that second parole was at least as big a mistake, and perhaps even a bigger one.
Yes, I know, it doesn't matter to the right; they're going to crucify Huckabee for it anyway, but I don't see why we have to do the same.
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slb
December 1, 2009 2:16 AM in reply to slb
Grrrr! HTML tags on this site sometimes don't want to span paragraphs.
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JNagarya
December 1, 2009 3:31 AM in reply to slb
They'll defend Huckabee and jabber about Dukakis -- a false equivalency. Dukakis signed a law enacted by the legislature. He had no part in the release of Willie Horton.
Huckabee had a direct role in the two releases which have shown this paragon of direct line to Truth to be extrardinarily poor in matters of judgment. Another religionut blinded by his certitude -- at the expense of the public.
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:39 PM in reply to slb
If you recognize that he should be crucified, then why deny that which is obviously "God"'s will? -- that he be crucified.
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Ray Radlein
November 30, 2009 10:40 PM
I love that picture. Mike Huckabee is saying, "See? Your fugitive is right up there in that blue rectangle, guys!"
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crenelle
November 30, 2009 10:53 PM
Was Maurice Clemmons ever the subject of a court-ordered psychological profile?
It is entirely clear where Clemmons is going, if they take him alive. I want to know is why he was so easily given the opportunity?
Giving him clemency without a psychological profile may not have been the best thing in the world to do for him, sure, but we had several opportunities to figure out what the real problem is since.
Our system did not handle his case insightfully. He will now pay for that, and the officers, the families, and his earlier victims also pay.
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Polderboy
December 1, 2009 8:04 AM in reply to crenelle
I had the exact same question. I browsed through the seattle-times pdf and didn't see any mentioning of psychiatric reports or observation reports from supervisors, mentors, prison guards, etc. No mentioning of the circumstances he was going to find himself when paroled: would he go to family/friends/girlfriend? Not even any mentioning of any re-entry programs or training he had received, or what his plans were once he was out of prison and which steps he would take or had taken already.
As a dutchman, I was really shocked at how shallow this entire parole process seemed to be. I suspect there is more paperwork involved than what was presented in that pdf, but there was absolutely no summary or mentioning of that. Nothing.
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:42 PM in reply to Polderboy
"God" redeems. There's no need for any sort of social supports or re-entry -- except more of the same stupefying dope: "religion".
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fangorn1
November 30, 2009 11:24 PM
Belief in creationism disqualifies Mike Huckabee from holding public office. That said, he otherwise seems like a pretty decent guy, especially compared to other political Christian Evangelicals. Blaming him for the actions of a murderer makes little sense, except, I suppose, as payback for Horton/Dukakis or the even more ridiculous accusations blaming Barack Obama for Major Hasan's actions. I choose not to blame Huckabee, Dukakis or Obama. Bush/Cheney and Iraqi WMD is another matter.
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forked tongue
December 1, 2009 12:18 AM in reply to fangorn1
I'm disinclined to blame Mike Dukakibee--er, wait, I mean HUCKABEE, Mike Huckabee, myself, but that doesn't mean I won't enjoy watching him wriggle.
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forked tongue
December 1, 2009 12:23 AM in reply to forked tongue
...which I suppose means the 2012 Republican candidate, who conceivably could become the next president if things go really badly, is all the more likely to be someone even worse OH GOD WE ARE SO FUCKED.
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Overreach THIS!
December 1, 2009 12:31 AM
Huckabee was already looking at not running and this makes it much worse for him. He has a pattern of letting lots of people out of jail, which Obama would long ago have been boiled in oil over.
They'll find a way BTW to make an Obama connection anyhow. This guy is black, Obama too, in Obama' America the prisoners are set free to go kill, blah-blah.
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amazona
December 1, 2009 12:48 AM
Dukakis didn't get a pass, Huckabee won't get one either.
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LJG
December 1, 2009 1:37 AM
I will save my schadenfreude for someone else. I actually feel sorry for Huckabee, even though I think his political philosophy stinks. Republicans will never forgive him, and Huckabee's political aspirations for higher office are dead - even though this incident was a simple matter of bad luck for him, just like the Willie Horton incident was a simple matter of bad luck for Dukakis.
Liberals should stay out of this and watch from the sidelines. They should shy away from making global statements about whether religion, clemency, and Huckabee are desirable for our country.
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Overreach THIS!
December 1, 2009 2:00 AM in reply to LJG
It wasn't a simple matter of bad luck, though. For a Republican politician, he let *way* too many people out of jail. Liked to do it, apparently. That's self-inflicted, whether you personally agree with his decisions or not.
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kenga
December 1, 2009 4:59 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
How many athiests, Buddhists, Muslims, and Native American Church members do you suppose he has pardoned or commuted the sentences of, as a ratio to Christians he has pardoned?
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JNagarya
December 1, 2009 3:25 AM in reply to LJG
Republicans will always forgive fellow Republicans, exactly as religioarrogants will always forgive the "failings" of their fellow religiohypocrites, while holding everyone else to a higher inflexible standard of nonforgiveness.
And "Liberals" have as much right to speak freely, and critically, as the santimonious hypocrites who tell those to whom they impute that label/perceived dirty word to shut up unless they kiss the ass of all the far-right lunatic fringe religionuts who preach a system of values they don't bother living in their own lives.
Sen. Craig: toe-tapping "family values".
Sen. Ensign: "family values" adulterer and briber.
Sen. Vitter: "family values" in diapers.
Clean up your own moral turpitude, corruption, bankruptcy, and amorality before telling everyone else they must live by the values you in effect scoff at.
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rebobby
December 1, 2009 6:49 AM
Compassion is a great thing, but it has its downside. While exercising compassion you sometimes make mistakes.
The issue here, though, is that Huckabee won't admit that he's capable of making a mistake. If he could admit mistakes, he would explain the parole and clemency processes and say that as governor "the bucks stopped here." End of story. He won't do that. The story continues.
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Johann
December 2, 2009 11:26 AM in reply to rebobby
How can Huckabee admit to having made a mistake when he got his marching orders from GOD, the infallible? It would be admitting that God can make mistakes.
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Johann
December 2, 2009 5:12 PM in reply to Johann
Upon further reflection: Huckabee is caught between a rock and a hard place. The other side of that coin is that God, and Huckabee, didn't make a mistake and that the deaths of the four police officers was intended by God.
Neither side of that coin is desirable.
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JNagarya
December 2, 2009 9:45 PM in reply to Johann
He made that coin. Now he has to flip it.
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rebobby
December 1, 2009 8:09 AM
Clemmons is dead.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5B02A420091201
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70news2
December 1, 2009 8:39 AM
BREAKING: Officials: Suspect in Cop Killings Dead (all latest news) http://www.33energy.com/breakingnews-suspect-in-cop-killings-dead.html
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hologram5
December 1, 2009 12:11 PM
Huckabee screwed the pooch on this one. The animal killed 4 upstanding police officers, destroyed not only the 4 families realated to the officers, he was accused of raping 2 little girls. Not only accused, the bastard was caught red-handed making them masturbate him. Yeah, huckabee, you have lost respect in this fiasco. And, the cop that took this animal out gave him 3 chances for clemmons to surrender and he finally had to fatally shoot him. That police officer is a hero in our eyes.
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Johann
December 3, 2009 10:47 AM
One thing that was not commented on is that the police killings occurred in the state of Washington.
Huckabee's release of prisoners may have had an economic basis. The cost of keeping a prisoner in jail is to expensive for Arkansas, so they release as many as possible.
One question which should be asked is: Was Clemmons release conditional upon his moving out of Arkansas (taking the problem to another state for that other state to worry about)?
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