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Richard L. Adlof wrote on January 26, 2007 8:57 PM:

This is strange . . . If dough-boy places his hand on a holy book either he or the tome will burst into flame. If he foregoes the swearing in on a holy book and claims that he will testify truthfully upon his own honor . . . Could the court leglimately allow him to testify?

I recognize that testimony must be weighed for impact and veracity by the folk in the jury box . . . but how one weigh the words of an individual who personifies contempt of law, humanity and the very fabric of our great nation.

I pray they televise his testimony . . .

BW wrote on January 26, 2007 11:34 PM:

How long now before Bush pardons Libby and washes everyone's hands in this mess? Really, what has Bush got to lose if he does? Not much, if anything IMHO. I can't imagine Bush's approval #s could be much affected, but if he doesn't, he could lose a whole lot. Why would he risk letting Cheney Rove and Bartlett testify under oath when a little pre-emptive pardon, daddy style, effectively ends the whole thing?

Am I missing something?

Anonymous wrote on January 26, 2007 11:41 PM:

I can see it now:

" "I am pardoning him not just out of compassion or to spare a [56]-year-old patriot the torment of lengthy and costly legal proceedings, but to make it possible for him to receive the honor he deserves for his extraordinary service to our country," Bush said in a proclamation granting executive clemency. "
http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1992/921224-260039.htm

Just like that.
It'll be deja vu all over again

What's a guy gotta do to hyperlink around here?

Richard L. Adlof wrote on January 27, 2007 12:23 AM:

Cuz ya can't pardon an innocent man . . . Not even even in Texas.

I hope that the verdict is not handed down until February 2009. Picture two years of TRUE criminal laundry airing . . . Followed by the next guy or gal leaving the little traitor-protector in for the duration as man-meat in the Federal 'lying' den. A little hard-time changes a man-like creature.

Jim wrote on January 27, 2007 12:15 PM:

I want to see Rove's head on a stick!

BW wrote on January 27, 2007 2:01 PM:

" Cuz ya can't pardon an innocent man . . . Not even even in Texas.
Posted by: Richard L. Adlof "

WTF? First. are you trying to say Libby is innocent of perjury? Really?

Second. The President can pre-emptively pardon anyone even before they have been charged with anything or after they have been charged but before they have even been to court. Just like Daddy Bush did when he pardoned 5 others along with the convicted weinberger or just like Ford did when he pardoned Nixon who had not (yet?) been indicted for anything.

If Bush wants to issue pardons today to Libby and Rove and Cheney and anyone else he wants to for all crimes related to the CIA leak, he sure as hell can and no one could stop him.

That's just how it is.

Richard L. Adlof wrote on January 27, 2007 5:18 PM:

Yo A.D.D. BOY! Read the post and the prior posts . . .

Of course all signs and facts point to Libby having committed the crime . . . I am sure that there are few insane and even fewer sane folk that will argue that Irwin NEEDS to spend the rest his unnatural life checked into the gray bar hotel for idelogical idiots. And of course, the 'Don't do the crime, if won't do the time' rule applies.

The inquiry was 'Why not issue a pardon and avoid the embarassment of facts seeing the light of day?'

The answer is you can't pardon an innocent individual and the Libster (while indicted and being tried) has yet to be found GUILTY by twelve brave souls. Simply: Not yet guilty = Not yet pardonable . . . . By definition (Not even in Bush World).

So we get entertainment that the FOX Noise Channel is going to refuse to carry BUT Seth Lord Channey has got to live with (unless Scooter pulls a Ken Lay and goes all el morte).

All sorts ofdirty laundry gets aired becuase Libby can't trust the Chimp in Charge to do the Quid Pro Quo - Catch and Release - thing and pardon him later. If the White House is stupid enough to offer Libby up as canon fodder into the legal system - Libby is wealthy enough and just mean enough to drag enough of them into the hole behind him so Whore-for-hay HAS to pardon him and them to insure his 'legacy'.

Anyway going back to the . . . No GUILTY means no pardon . . . thing: Once Libby is offically guilty then the question of C.Y.A. vs duck and cover with a little pay-back for blabbibg kicks in. Libby has gotta be looking at Jack in the black hat Abramoff not being released back into the wild Scott-free and thinking that his trip into Stir is one way.

Remember King George the 43rd has shown himself genetically incapable of taking personal responsiblity for virtually anything. Pen to paper for a letter for a Libby pardon means that the President's waste products do in fact have odor.

Does this clear the issue up?

Richard L. Adlof wrote on January 27, 2007 5:38 PM:

Tricky Dick was tried by the people's branch and found Impeached. There was guilt, so pardon ensued. The unlying crime was made moot so the conspiritors were ignored.

Richard L. Adlof wrote on January 27, 2007 7:03 PM:

I believe we also have to remember that the crime underlying Libby's lying crime is Treason by a guy holding a Constitutionally defined Executive Branch job . . . The stakes in this game are a bit beyond flinching and being run off the road.

BW wrote on January 28, 2007 12:17 AM:

" Not yet guilty = Not yet pardonable . . . . By definition (Not even in Bush World). "

You simply could not be more wrong.

On Dec 24 Then President George H W Bush pardoned 6 in the Iran Contra affair, including the pre-emptive pardon of Duane "Dewey" Clarridge who "was scheduled to go on trial in March on seven counts of perjury and making false statements to Congress." and had not had his day 1 in court nor had he been convicted of anything.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/28/AR2006032800858.html

Who is "A.D.D. BOY!"? Duh!

Anonymous wrote on January 28, 2007 12:38 AM:

Pre-emptive pardons are not anything new. Look at what KY Gov Ernie Fletcher did a year and a half ago.

"Gov. Ernie Fletcher on Monday granted blanket pardons to current and former members of his administration who have been charged in an investigation into alleged improper hiring.

The move came on the eve of Fletcher's appearance before a grand jury investigating his administration's hiring practices" ...

"The governor's decree pardons the nine people already charged as well as anyone else who might be accused by the grand jury of violating any section of the penal code, not just the personnel laws. The pardon extends to crimes that may have been committed up to Monday."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/29/national/a190637D92.DTL

Habanero wrote on January 28, 2007 9:25 AM:

BW, I am sure you are correct. At worst King George would be guilty of violating the Ethics in Government Act. I wish it were not true. I do see him doing that as what could finally set the stage for serial impeachments.

http://www.house.gov/ethics/ETHICS_IN_GOVERNMENT_ACT_LINK_PAGE.htm

habanero wrote on January 28, 2007 9:29 AM:

The Ethics in Government Act goes beyond ensuring financial disclosure. Pardoning a person to ensure there is not opportunity to take them behind the woodshed in cross examination is one of those ethical violations.

Ghost of Tom Joad wrote on January 28, 2007 2:58 PM:

Isikoff has been played by the WH. Atrios had more detail about it

nofltwlt wrote on January 28, 2007 4:15 PM:

Remember when Bush indicated that if anyone on his staff was implicated in the Plame leak, that person would no longer be working for the White House.

So, are Cheney, Rove et. al. now unpaid volunteers?

76er wrote on January 28, 2007 5:47 PM:

Here's my take on what's going on:

Fitzgerald found out very early on that Cheney was the ringleader but realized how difficult it would be to bring down a sitting VP. So...he decide to play Rove off against Libby with the help of Armitage and Ari Fleischer, both of whom were guilty of wrongdoing themselves (Armitage for leaking Plame and Fleischer for perjury) knowing that they would sing for immunity.

Fitzgerald then began negotiating with Rove and Libby using them against each other to get them to reveal incriminating evidence against one another and more importantly, Cheney.

Fitzgerald then publicly announced that Rove was cleared and only indicted Libby on a limited perjury charge to deflect attention from the case he was building against Cheney knowing that all would eventually come out in trial.

We'll see if I'm right as I know it's a bit far-fetched, but if I am, Fitzgerald is a brilliant prosecutor with balls of steel who will go down in history as a true American hero.

Interesting how quiet Byron York of NRO has been on the matter these last few days.

Donald from Hawaii wrote on January 29, 2007 2:25 AM:

I think the window of political opportunity for a blanket pardon has probably passed until the trial is complete. I'm sure the Bush administration realizes that what's left of its public support could well crater if the president either pardoned Libby during his trial or made an effort to relieve Patrick Fitzgerald of his post.

Let's not forget that the fatal self-inflicted blow to President Nixon's chances of riding out the Watergate scandal came with his summary dispatch of Watergate prosecutor Archibald Cox, Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Richardson's deputy (Bill Ruckleshaus?), which became infamous as the "Saturday Night Massacre".

At that moment, many moderate Republicans became convinced that something was legally amiss and terribly awry at the Nixon White House, impeachment became inevitable and the president's fate was sealed.

Given the results of the 2006 midterms and the public's rapidly souring mood about almost anything having to do with George W. Bush, any move by the Bush administration to squelch by pardon the truth about the falsehoods surrounding the run-up to the Iraq War may very well ensure a profound and probably fatal political backlash for GOP elected officials and candidates in 2008.

The majority of these GOP congressional people have proven to be cowards at heart, and as such they probably aren't likely to volunteer willlingly as martyrs for the Bush / Cheney cause.

Therefore, if the above scenario somehow ever plays out, and their political survival or viability depends in large part upon their willingness to throw either Bush or Cheney (or even Alberto Gonzalez) under an impeachment bus, I think you'll see more than enough of them flip in the Senate to guarantee convictions and removal.

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