Comments (38)

Charles wrote on February 2, 2007 11:21 AM:

I believe the word they are seeking is "clusterf*ck."

Legion wrote on February 2, 2007 11:26 AM:

Well met. I believe "goatscrew" is another apt term.

mongowantsex wrote on February 2, 2007 11:27 AM:

Im sure the Iraqi people will be ecstatic to hear that their misery has finally been "classified".

hrned wrote on February 2, 2007 11:27 AM:

Is it too late to ask Saddam to come back?

QuentinCompson wrote on February 2, 2007 11:32 AM:

Bush's Folly.
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Legion wrote on February 2, 2007 11:36 AM:

Reality Bush

rational wrote on February 2, 2007 11:40 AM:

I thought the appropriate term was "Bushwhacked"

DM Strong wrote on February 2, 2007 11:43 AM:

people are dying there by the dozens each day, hundreds of thousands have been displaced, billions of dollars have been wasted, and american families are struggling to cope while we're sending loved ones off to this madness for a third or fourth tour and we're still quibbling over what to call it.

Bryan Nelson wrote on February 2, 2007 11:45 AM:

What is 'bubble boy' to do? Facts have certainly become the nemisis for George lately.

Cheney is going to have to work overtime to convince George that his fantasy world is the place to be.

Phil A. wrote on February 2, 2007 11:47 AM:

CNN's report says the NIE makes "no determination as to whether Iraq is in a civil war". Also the NIE's contention that "Iraq's neighbors...not likely to be a major driver of violence" is not mentioned in the story. What gives?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/02/iraq.nie/index.html

Typical media whore wrote on February 2, 2007 11:47 AM:

This is good news for Republicans.

I think.

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Volvo Liberal wrote on February 2, 2007 11:48 AM:

Media confused. Go figure...

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U.S. intelligence sees elements of Iraq "civil war"

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence has concluded key elements of
Iraq's violence could be described as "civil war," a term Bush administration officials have been reluctant to use, a new report said on Friday.

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db wrote on February 2, 2007 11:50 AM:

We know what the response is going to be: The Iraqis chose civil war, not us. We tried to prevent it.

Forget that all the dirty hippies and a gaggle of poppy bush's men and a clutch of crusty generals repeatedly warned of exactly what we face now.

fred wrote on February 2, 2007 11:57 AM:

Not just a"clusterf*ck" but, appropriately enough, one of Biblical proportions. "MESS-O-POTAMIA"

editor wrote on February 2, 2007 12:00 PM:

Aha. So this is why the Administration can say Iraq isn't in a Civil War:

>>The Intelligence Community judges that the term >>“civil war” does not adequately capture the >>complexity of the conflict in Iraq

Carl from L.A. wrote on February 2, 2007 12:07 PM:

Ah, America at work, always a day late and a dollar short.

Naturally, we get around to announcing that Iraq is in a state of civil war pretty much exactly at the point where it has declined from civil war to a state of anarchic chaos.

They will admit to this condition just about the time that everyone in Iraq is dead.

Bernie wrote on February 2, 2007 12:13 PM:

"Is it too late to ask Saddam to come back?"

Weekend at Maliki's?

neondesert wrote on February 2, 2007 12:22 PM:

While "Facts have certainly become the nemisis for George lately" is not far off the mark, I have to think it's not entirely accurate. The facts have ALWAYS been adversarial in Bush's mind, which is how he can ignore them when convenient and lie about them when necessary. When they finally come to light, as in the NIE report, they become the products of the Bush presidency rather than the materials of it.

At the risk of going over the top, I can only see the events of 911 - with the burning towers in the foreground - as being the epitome of the Bush presidency. The smoke streaming into the morning sky hints at the destructive forces at work beneath the surface, the effects of which result in the ultimate collapse. It seems that, lately, the facts are coming in as indications of the collapse of this administration. I can only hope that the after-affects of the collapse turn out to be dissimilar to those of the people who lost their lives trying to rescue victims in the rubble of the towers.

Anonymous wrote on February 2, 2007 12:22 PM:

"Cheney is going to have to work overtime to convince George that his fantasy world is the place to be."

This whole debacle is Cheney's gift to the future. The colonization by this philosophy of Bush's brain (the biological one) is a foregone conclusion, why else would he be made President?

ifthethunderdontgetya wrote on February 2, 2007 12:23 PM:

We know what the response is going to be: The Iraqis chose civil war, not us. We tried to prevent it.

DB, that's exactly the manure Krauthammer is shoveling in the Washington Post today.

P.S. Is there a way to post links in the comments?

wasg wrote on February 2, 2007 12:27 PM:

We've passed civil war and have now entered "failed state" territory. You know what that means? Cheap smack!
No, wait..that's not it. Something about breeding grounds or something.

Anonymous wrote on February 2, 2007 12:33 PM:

In addition to CNN, it's being misreported by the Washington Post:

"In a discussion of whether Iraq has reached a state of civil war, the 90-page classified NIE comes to no conclusion"

glenstein wrote on February 2, 2007 12:36 PM:

whoops, forgot the url for the WP story.

http://tinyurl.com/27n6es

litigatormom wrote on February 2, 2007 12:52 PM:

I think Jon Stewart coined the most accurate term: "Catastrofuck."

Anonymous wrote on February 2, 2007 12:55 PM:

This morning, Hadley gave a preview of how Duhhbya will pick, choose and spin several points in the PUBLIC version of the NIE. Fodder for the wingnutosphere and the rest of the teleprompter readers in the MSM.

Been there, done that; same-o, same-o.

What the ball-chasing puppies in the MSM are sure to neglect are the frightening facts in the SECRET portion of the NIE that won't dribble out for months, if at all.

Aaaargh wrote on February 2, 2007 1:03 PM:

Hesiod called it a long time ago: The Republic of FUBAR.

SteveW wrote on February 2, 2007 1:07 PM:

Unequivocal? I thought it was highly equivocal. That looks like a paragraph that was written and rewritten many times.

Nell wrote on February 2, 2007 1:14 PM:

Glenstein, thanks for that catch. That's what happens when Karen DeYoung is involved...

samg wrote on February 2, 2007 1:23 PM:

someone ought to send a copy of the nie to cheney. it might surprise him to hear that there are anything but "enormous successes" in iraq.

dan wrote on February 2, 2007 1:27 PM:

Calling this a civil war gives undue credit to the administration. It implies an organized armed opposition to an established central government, but Iraq never had a functional central government after we moved in. What we have now is more like the Oklahoma land rush, where armed mobs rushed into anyplace they sensed a power vacuum or the possibility of creating one (regardless of the status of those who already lived there, by choice or necessity). Sadly, that description now describes the entire country of Iraq, with the possible exception of Kurdistan - which never really considered itself part of Iraq in the first place.

Meanwhile our public servants, who remain responsible for this mess, run around trying to come up with new ideas to salvage a hopeless wrack of their own creation. Their combined conditions of frustrated inarticulateness and chicken-like ineffectualness suggests the appellation, "fluster-cluck."

bunny99 wrote on February 2, 2007 1:50 PM:

Am I the only one who smells the Rove touch on the NIE? To parphrase, if we leave, the result will be chaos. Sounds too much like their latest mantra. I'm sure Americans feel confident that the decider's new way forward was put into motion before he read the completed NIE. Wait, can he read? Congress is seriously debating this? What a laugh. Who wants to play war games?. I am hoping the rift with Cheney's mafia and the CIA finally comes to a head, and the CIA starts spilling big time.

MSM and Congress are as big a failure as the Bushies, all of them subservient to the paymasters. We are all alone. Let's hope for an insider with a conscience.

angry donkey wrote on February 2, 2007 2:25 PM:

and things were going JUST FINE until the Dems won the last election.

Plan on being at war with Iran by the end of April.

tofubo wrote on February 2, 2007 3:22 PM:

I believe the word they are seeking is "clusterf*ck."

i believe the phrase they are seeking is "planned kaos"

(when told "you would open up the gates of hell" and they did it anyway...)

Richard Blair wrote on February 2, 2007 4:20 PM:

"Is it too late to ask Saddam to come back?"

Weekend at Maliki's?

Posted by: Bernie

Ok - that's it. I need a drink. It's officially the weekend.

ellroon wrote on February 2, 2007 7:34 PM:

Call it what it is: Bush's vanity war.

"Is it too late to ask Saddam to come back?"

Weekend at Maliki's?

Posted by: Bernie

Ok - that's it. I need a drink. It's officially the weekend.
Posted by: Richard Blair

Nearly Headless Saddam?

pkafin wrote on February 2, 2007 7:35 PM:

Well, it's John Stewart's verbage, but I believe the word at hand is "catastrof*ck"

Shannon Conway wrote on February 4, 2007 9:15 AM:

JUST LEAVE!! They are SIMPLY NOT WORTH IT. Let them kill each other off. Bush has accomplished his false "mission" of doing away with Sadaam. He HAS his excuse to go.

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