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Rove Aide Resigns
Maybe it's a coincidence.
White House political director Sara Taylor is out the door at the White House, according to Washington Wire. Taylor came up a number of times yesterday during the Kyle Sampson hearing as having worked closely with Sampson (along with another Karl Rove aide Scott Jennings) to install Rove's former aide Tim Griffin as the U.S. Attorney in eastern Arkansas.
"Barry Jackson, a longtime aide to Karl Rove, also is thought to be leaving soon.... All the departures appear to be more-or-less routine turnover," reports the Washington Wire.
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Comments (105)
profmarcus wrote on March 30, 2007 1:17 PM:the walls are closing in on karl... i am eagerly awaiting the opportunity to witness his fat ass sizzling on the griddle...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
melior wrote on March 30, 2007 1:18 PM:Bwhaha! Resignation the day after incriminating testimony == "routine turnover" indeed, in the land of chuckleheads, charlatans and thieves.
Another Loyal Bushie Bites The Dust! wrote on March 30, 2007 1:22 PM:Wonder how involved she was with that GSA PowerPoint presentation?
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 1:23 PM:Security Code Word: front
rap this asswipe.
draftedin68 wrote on March 30, 2007 1:28 PM:.
Could it be that she just got tired of watching Karl tear the tops off small animals?
What I'd like to see is not just a list of who has left Duhhbya's administration, but WHERE they are now.
.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 1:29 PM:All the departures appear to be more-or-less routine turnover," reports the Washington Wire.
Are they serious? Is the Moonie Times' wire service?
Mike Valentine wrote on March 30, 2007 1:30 PM:Rats and sinking ships.
C 92 wrote on March 30, 2007 1:30 PM:we learned today in the Washington Post that Monica Goodling worked for Tim Griffin between her graduation from Regent and her takin a position at DOJ.
This close past relationship would indicate to me that shes a bigger player than was acknowledged.
And while were at it, we never got an explanation of why Susan Ralston left.
chris wrote on March 30, 2007 1:31 PM:can't help but think: do we really want people with such highly devleoped short-term memory disfunction running things? gives novak's I word a whole new dimension.
DallasNE wrote on March 30, 2007 1:32 PM:Apparently she need Sampson to say "I don't remember" more than 122 times.
She should be added to the witness list.
logorrhea wrote on March 30, 2007 1:32 PM:Truly, nothing will keep that man out of politics other than jail. He is poison to American political system.
Security Code: smell
I love the security codes almost as much as I love the news and commentary here.
V LaRoche wrote on March 30, 2007 1:33 PM:Yeah, well, Jim Comey now works for Lockheed Martin. Talk about keeping your enemies close, well fed, and well watched.
Ann in AZ wrote on March 30, 2007 1:33 PM:Was Scott Jennings the guy that gave that political talk to the GSA employees (in apparent violation of the Hatch Act?)
logorrhea wrote on March 30, 2007 1:34 PM:I meant Rove, in my comment above, in case that wasn't clear.
SC: stiff
Punchy wrote on March 30, 2007 1:37 PM:The Wire apparently left out a few words. What they meant to print was "soon-to-be routine turnoover"....
how come I get all the boring security codes?
jeffs wrote on March 30, 2007 1:40 PM:Susan Ralston?
"House Committee requests deposition of former Rove assistant in connection with Abramoff"
"The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee today requested that former Special Assistant to the President, Susan Ralston, appear at a deposition on Apr. 5th, as part of the committee's ongoing investigation into the connection between the White House and lobbyist Jack Abramoff."
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/House_Oversight_Committee_requests_deposition_of_0330.html
mitchcol wrote on March 30, 2007 1:40 PM:The Bush Administration is slowly being whittled down to a few 'dead-enders.'
mbbsdphil wrote on March 30, 2007 1:40 PM:Nothing is closing in on Karl yet. He's executing his Plan. Notice that those under the bus don't include him; he's still well on the sidewalk and away from the curb. Much more to come.
Primordial Ooze wrote on March 30, 2007 1:42 PM:So, since Barry Jackson is leaving too, is there a shoe that's about to drop on him?
Or are they just firing someone else to make it look routine?
Looks like he was in contact with Safavian about garment factories in the Marianas...
http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/taxonomy/term/96
bcf wrote on March 30, 2007 1:43 PM:Cutting White House ties and getting out now improves her prospects for an immunity deal?
Barbara wrote on March 30, 2007 1:45 PM:draftedin68: What I'd like to see is not just a list of who has left Duhhbya's administration, but WHERE they are now.
Me too. And a lot about who is replacing them. And I'd like to see them all testifying under oath.
I thought last night about just compiling a string of security codes. Are they randomly generated? Mine is profit.
Bearpaw wrote on March 30, 2007 1:45 PM:With a bus that's as out-of-control as this one, the sidewalk isn't safe either.
ww wrote on March 30, 2007 1:47 PM:Resigning is protection. A court just ruled Rummy was immune from prosecution as a civy for acts performed while in office.
Or does this not apply here?
Bushwhacker wrote on March 30, 2007 1:47 PM:So if we impeach Bush and call it 'routine turnover' no one will notice, right?
daCascadian wrote on March 30, 2007 1:51 PM:Keep drilling down because there is a lot yet to be exposed.
MUCH MUCH worse than Watergate.
Bet on it !
(security code = pull)
"There are three kinds of men:
Mooser wrote on March 30, 2007 1:53 PM:1. The ones that learn by reading.
2. The few who learn by observation.
3. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." - Will Rogers
Left-click, right-click, left-click again and I (for one) get a list of my security code "secret words". That's with IE, anyway.
Anyway it was one hell of a winter of discontent, and now it might as well be "spring".
vox clamantis in red state wrote on March 30, 2007 1:53 PM:Oh, does anyone thing Rove and Abu can beat this rap with a little more schtick?
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 1:54 PM:I think we need an investigation into the security codes - they're just too perfect!
Mine is "still" as in "why do we still have this crowd in office?"
Splash wrote on March 30, 2007 1:56 PM:On the Q. of whether Goodling ever passed the Bar Exam, I found a document from the VA State Bar including Goodling in a list of members. The doc is from Sep 10, 2003. So somehow she was admitted to practice law in Virginia. The inquiry should be how she was admitted, because I think Virginia, like many states, has a process for waiving the Bar Exam requirement for people who have been practicing law for long enough.
Here's the url:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/legal/virginia-bar.htm
Sorry if this is cumulative.
Randy wrote on March 30, 2007 1:59 PM:It's really interesting that Sampson said that he didn't recall 122 times but he didn't write anything down. He ran a two year program to fire the attorneys without writing any memos and he remembered that.
Jim wrote on March 30, 2007 2:01 PM:security code: garden and that's were the documents are buried
KEEP THOSE RESIGNATIONS COMING !! Thousands more to go. BUT It DOES NOT exempt you from being subpeoned.
monicawatch wrote on March 30, 2007 2:02 PM:sara taylor and monica goodling. just about same age. would have worked closely over the years, I suspect.
did not attend same college (sara went to school in iowa. but she headed her college's young republicans.
i wonder if monica was involved with the young republicans in college
the grooming for crime starts early...
code word is "degree" - I wonder if repubs give a degree in crime.
BLH wrote on March 30, 2007 2:02 PM:Hey, uhm, Sara?
Before you leave and turn out the lights, can we have your files, computers, Blackberries, and government-provided cell phones?
Thanks!
Books Alive wrote on March 30, 2007 2:04 PM:Both coasts are caught up in Military-Industrial-Congressional corruption. Is there any hope that everything will be investigated? Carol Lam's California cases were making progress. So far, the whistleblower, Sibel Edmonds, has been silenced, but her supporters are releasing links that show who is behind what she has been trying to expose. Lockheed Martin is one of them. This is the link to the American-Turkish Council, Golden Horn members.
http://www.the-atc.org/data/memberslist/list_g.htm
davis¹³ wrote on March 30, 2007 2:05 PM:Nothing will happen to Rove. Democrats don't have what it takes to nail him. He'll walk away free as a bird, set for life.
I'm about sick and tired of the way Democrats handle this stuff. Boyscouts. If it weren't for the alternative I wouldn't vote for them.
obsessed wrote on March 30, 2007 2:07 PM:I'm very much looking forward to seeing what they can coax out Ms. Ralston! My hunch is that she's guilty of more felonies than she realizes, knows where more bodies are buried than she realizes, and might not be all that unflappable or clear-headed during cross-examination.
ahem wrote on March 30, 2007 2:08 PM:Does everyone in 'Karl's shop' use off-book emails?
If so, time to subpoena the archives before the RNC tries to wipe them.
Code: 'round' - the shape of the White House's preferred filing cabinet.
Pete wrote on March 30, 2007 2:11 PM:Why do these inside the beltway reporters enjoy looking like fools. Any idiot can see there is nothing "routine" about this. Why even pretend there is?
60th Street wrote on March 30, 2007 2:19 PM:I've been looking, but does anyone know if Goodling will be the first person to plead the 5th before a congressional committee since Enron's Lay and Fastow and WorldCom's Ebbers and Sullivan?
If so I would like to see that drum get beaten a little. The right-wing noise machines will downplay and continue the "criminalization of politics" meme, we have to up-play the tired bag of tricks used by white collar criminals and where that gets you meme. It also doesn't hurt that it underscores the oversight gap between 108th and 110th Congresses.
Dan D wrote on March 30, 2007 2:19 PM:On this subject, why is Tim Griffin still the USA for Eastern Arkansas?
Why hasn't he resigned?
Will his nomination be put to the senate for rejection?
Agathena wrote on March 30, 2007 2:19 PM:When I was young(er) we were often told, "you can tell a lot about a man by the way he dances."
It makes sense that a person's inner self would be revealed in the graceful, rhythmic movements of his body. Actually, I think we can tell a lot about any person by the way they dance.
OMIGAWD - watching Karl Rove 'dance' reminded me of the insane dancing in the Goya masterpiece "Death of a Sardine." Please look it up and you will see for yourselves.
davis¹³ wrote on March 30, 2007 2:19 PM:Does everyone in 'Karl's shop' use off-book emails?
If so, time to subpoena the archives before the RNC tries to wipe them.>>>
Punchy wrote on March 30, 2007 2:21 PM:Are you kidding? They were wiped at the first sign of trouble.
I'm going to just keep posting until I get a cool security word. Dammit...I got "west". Nothing's cool about west.
Oh, and I agree Rove wont get nailed. Teflon. And all that fat will keep him alive should he have to flee into the mountains.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 2:22 PM:Oh, this is too rich. Bwahahaha!
Security code: snake
Richard L. Adlof wrote on March 30, 2007 2:23 PM:Is anyone checking to see if the rats fleeing the sinking ship are making sure their passports are in order for trips to Dubai?
TheraP wrote on March 30, 2007 2:24 PM:At this point a number of young women, resigned or on leave, will no doubt be forming a support group.
or having nervous breakdowns in private!
Mrs Panstreppon wrote on March 30, 2007 2:25 PM:Splash@March 30, 2007 01:56 PM
Thanks for posting the link to the Memory Hole's Excel spreadsheet, "2003 List of Members of the Virginia Bar". Someone else posted it a few days ago and, at first, I assumed it was legitimate because I consider MH's Russ Kirk to be reliable.
But then I wasn't sure because the spreadsheet itself did not have a heading nor did it list the dates, etc.
I just visited Memory Hole again and noticed that Russ Kirk posted this:
"Every state has a bar association that licenses attorneys to practice in that state. For some reason, the Virginia State Bar refused to release the list of the state's licensed attorneys. Virginia law clearly states states that this list is public information and must be released [read more]. After five months of stonewalling, Mary Yancey Spencer of the Bar forked it over on 10 September 2003."
Mary Yancey Spencer can verify the document's authenticity if need be.
As an aside, MH has lots of neato government docs that no one else has.
Live link to MH pasted below.
Mrs Panstreppon wrote on March 30, 2007 2:29 PM:@March 30, 2007 02:25 PM
Oops! Russ Kick owns and runs the Memory Hole website, not Kirk.
Peter Principle wrote on March 30, 2007 2:36 PM:"The Bush Administration is slowly being whittled down to a few 'dead-enders.'"
Soon to be "former regime elements."
macartney wrote on March 30, 2007 2:36 PM:This keeps getting more intriguing by the day. I watched most of the hearing yesterday and I have some thoughts/lingering questions I thought I'd throw out:
1. Sen. Schumer tried valiantly to get Mr. Sampson to name the attorneys who were once on "the List" but were removed. He finally agreed to submit those names in writing at a later date. Any word on whether he has/will named them, and if so, will Schumer make those names public? Those redacted names hold a trove of clues, I think, to help us more fully flesh out the reasons the prosecutors were fired. Were they prosecutors who did play ball and release information before the midterms to damage Democrats? The attorney from New Jersey? Was he on that list, only to be removed because he did release damaging info re: Sen. Menendez?
2. On that same track, the only prosecutor Mr. Sampson did reveal who went on-then-off "the List" was the North Carolina attorney who Ms. Goodling saved from execution. The same Ms. Goodling who is now pleading the Fifth Amendment... In regards to her, perhaps we're missing the story. Perhaps she's taking the Fifth, not because she misprepped DOJ officials, but because of this involvement.
3. During the hearings, Sen. Specter repeatedly proclaimed how interested he was in the use of the Patriot Act provision, allowing DOJ/WH to skirt Senate confirmation. He dedicated quite a bit of his questioning to this area. From what I saw/read, however, never once did he mention that it was HIS OFFICE that slipped in that provision. Am I wrong? Why didn't anyone on the committee, but particularly Sen. Specter, mention that? Mention that the one responsible for slipping it into the bill, Mr. Brett Tolman, is now himself a USA? Why didn't anyone ask Mr. Sampson if there was any quid pro quo going on?
4. There seemed to be an undertone in a few of the Democratic Senator's questionings that seemed to suggest that the committee has spoken already with various officials to get information/accounts of things that have happened. That they already had versions/accounts of things Mr. Sampson had done or said. Did anyone else get this feeling? Does anyone know of non-public facts/interviews the committee has undertaken?
5. The common talking point in defense of these firings has been that the USAs "serve at the pleasure of the President." But a more accurate description, I believe, has emerged. As has been hinted at in the e-mails, in Mr. Sampson's testimony, and in particular, in yesterday's NYTimes article describing the Wed. WH Judicial Mtgs, it seems like the USAs were serving at "the pleasure of Mr. Rove." We're all familiar with the idea that he is "Bush's Brain," but perhaps he has simply assumed the power and authority of the President, a coup of power, if you will. I mean, the WH has claimed that Mr. Bush has no recollection of being involved in these decisions. Perhaps he wasn't. Perhaps he did not even sign off/okay them. Can he legally delegate/turn over those responsibilities? Can he make Mr. Rove, an unelected man, President-de-facto?
I don't know if any of these add anything new to this discussion; they're simply some of the many rambling thoughts this 24 year-old political junkie, who has been obsessively following this story, had to get out. By the way, anyone know the end game behind the Dems hearings? Collect enough evidence of wrongdoing/shadiness to throw it to a special prosecutor?
rlogan wrote on March 30, 2007 2:41 PM:Security code: TPM staff are hung like a horses.
Hmm.
Routine hiring practice, I guess.
nikto wrote on March 30, 2007 2:44 PM:OK, let's just cut the crap and subpoena ALL of them---Rove, Gonzo, every aide and clerk in their office, and the janitor as well.
If they have pets, subpoena them too (they probably remember more than the principals will during testimony).
No negotiation--SUBPOENA! SUBPOENA! SUBPOENA!
malcontent wrote on March 30, 2007 2:45 PM:Why doesn't the Congress start holding these people with the convenient memory loss in contempt - give them the Susan McDougal treatment - to see if that helps jog their memories?
bcf wrote on March 30, 2007 2:47 PM:You know, after hearing about Rove's tearing the tops off small animals....
I was wondering, who puts the bras on them in the first place. Could it have been, Taylor?
casual observer wrote on March 30, 2007 2:47 PM:Wait a minute. "imminent" and "soon" don't equal "out the door". Washington Wire is not saying they are gone.
Unmitigated Audacity wrote on March 30, 2007 2:50 PM:This is like turning on lights in the middle of the night in the kitchen and squashing the scurrying cockroaches. Unfortunately there seems to be an endless supply of them. Queen mother Karl is under the refrigerator giving birth to another abominable litter of Hitler Youth wannabes. The Dems dilemma reminds me of the Steely Dan song Two Against Nature:
Scrape the wallboards the whole damn batch
Catch the maggoty eggs before they hatch
Pepper and ratbone make damn sure
Shake the rubbish out on the patio floor
Soak the timber with special spray
Nuke the itty bity ones right where they lay
Whip the bastards while they still green
Take the firemop - sweep it kissing clean
Yea, and good luck unto ye. This is akin to Hercules mucking out the Augean stables.
jacqueline grant wrote on March 30, 2007 2:51 PM:Rove's man in Arkansas, Hillary better watch outin 2008 elections. Thats what this all about Rove thinks he can flip the script and make Dems looks corrupt in 2008.
What cities are these replacements in anyway?
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biggerbox wrote on March 30, 2007 2:53 PM:Well, yeah, I guess it is 'more-or-less routine' to resign before the indictment. Unless you're a GOP Congressman.
JEP wrote on March 30, 2007 2:53 PM:"All the departures appear to be more-or-less routine turnover,"
LOL....is that a "comedy routine?"
pt bridgeport wrote on March 30, 2007 2:54 PM:I don't see anything suspicious in this departure. It's not as if Ms. Taylor's quitting will preserve Rove's shop from any questioning. To the contrary: once she's left the shop, it'll be that much harder for them to coordinate their narratives. And since she wouldn't leave without securing a parachute in advance, Karl now can't withhold help with her next job until he's been assured of her 'good faith' behavior.
Now, it may be she's decided on her own that she'd rather leave before her position requires her to engage in any additional felonies. But that would be all to the good.
But as a point of curiosity, what institute of neocon welfare in the "private sector" has taken her under its wing?
That said, I do love the smell of roasted Ralston in the morning.
scout wrote on March 30, 2007 2:54 PM:yes, that dancing was UGLY!
a man who dances like that clearly can't be trusted (as if we didn't already know that, but hey)
security code: wound
as in:
- at what point does Bush amputate Gonzales/Rove/Jennings, etc., because the wound is so badly infected?
or:
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 3:00 PM:- the Dems appear to be wound up too tightly to take full advantage of the situation
Rove designed the plan to get rid of Habeas Corpus....It is time to get it back...
www.RestoreHabeasCorpusNow.Com.
jt wrote on March 30, 2007 3:02 PM:It seemed pretty peculiar that Sampson couldn't remember hardly anything about the past 2 years but could remember details about one case he did in 1999.
Twin Planets wrote on March 30, 2007 3:07 PM:It sure is dangerous being chief-of-staff or assistant to Bush Administration officials. Libby, Sampson, Ralston, McNulty, now Ms. Taylor... almost as perilous as being Al-Qaeda's "number two man in Iraq".
giark65 wrote on March 30, 2007 3:10 PM:WHO???
"Gonzales said he had his former chief of staff, Kyle Sampson, coordinated performance evaluations for the 93 U.S. attorneys "to see where changes might be appropriate."
"I signed off on the recommendations and signed off on the implementation plan, and that's the extent of my involvement," he told reporters after a holding a round-table discussion in the U.S. attorney's office here with state and federal law enforcement officials about a Justice Department initiative to thwart online predators."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070330/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/fired_prosecutors
The glass view is neither Gonzalez or Sampson hold accountability for the list. It is so apparent no one in the DOJ is responsible for that list yet congress keeps harping the point the DOJ is guilty. The moment names start to be mentioned is the moment clarity appears.
Why is it so difficult for congress to forwardly ask, in any one circumstance, WHO was responsible for any of the given names?
Regarding Sampson, I see it is quite apparent he was nothing more than a pawn. Same with Gonzalez. However, neither of them is willing to state where these list of names generated from other than some "list" which doesn't even exist.
martyc35 wrote on March 30, 2007 3:13 PM:Where are they now? I can remember when they came rushing out of Nixon's fold or jail and straight (usually back) into Bechtel or Lockheed. Halliburton or GE would be good guesses, too, now that Enron is gone.
I thought Susan Ralston left because she was too close to the Abramoff scandal.
I REALLY like this security code:
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 3:19 PM:Susan Ralston,
Is the big fish of assistances. She control access to Karl Rove and asked her former boss, Norquest, if he wanted to let so and so contact Karl. Norquest controled Karl's contacts using Susan.
She will be down Rove and Norquest, with Abramsoff.
These are really stinking rioting fish waiting to be turned into cornmeal for weed killer on the GOP machine.
EasyRider wrote on March 30, 2007 3:20 PM:Norquest, if he wanted to let so and so contact Karl. Norquest controled Karl's contacts using Susan.
She will be down Rove and Norquest, with Abramsoff.
These are really stinking rioting fish waiting to be turned into cornmeal for weed killer on the GOP machine.
Vulture Breath wrote on March 30, 2007 3:34 PM:Kyle Sampson, Monica Goodling, and Sara Taylor are the Oliver North/Fawn Halls of this generation. Give it a couple years and they will be completely "rehabilitated" by the far right and will be hosting horrendously bad Fox News and radio call-in shows.
RVM wrote on March 30, 2007 3:36 PM:Sara Taylor
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sara Taylor (born 1974) is Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Political Affairs at the White House, making her one of George W. Bush's top political aides. She currently reports to Karl Rove.
The pollster played a major role in both Bush presidential victories and is now poised to have a hand in a variety of major Senate and gubernatorial races in 2006. She began her political career as a toddler, helping her dad, Ray Taylor, a former Iowa state representative.
She is a graduate of Drake University. During her time at Drake, Taylor held the position of National Co-Chairman of the College Republicans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Taylor
Drake University
Founded: 1881
Motto: Veritas (Truth)*
*Hmmm....hope she lives up to the old school motto when the subpoena arrives and it's her turn to sit down at the witness table.
Frederick wrote on March 30, 2007 3:40 PM:Let's see if Karl can turn that rap dancing into perkwalking out the WH door, you go Karl!
Angel wrote on March 30, 2007 3:40 PM:Security code: Brain
monicawatch wrote on March 30, 2007 3:42 PM:Get rid of Bush's Brain. heehee
RVM -
sara -same age as monica - so where was monica in the college repubs during that time?
And who in the higher-ups of the one party system were monitoring the college repubs? looking for idealistic young to conscript into evil?
or possibly there is a toddler edition of the "party"
JEP wrote on March 30, 2007 3:45 PM:Anyone else prefer to see Karl do "the Frogmarch" instead of "the Rapdance?"
JEP wrote on March 30, 2007 3:46 PM:Frederick, how did ww both get the same idea at the same time? Must be in the ether...
Miss Devore wrote on March 30, 2007 3:52 PM:I think it is even more exciting that Ralston is being called to testify to the oversight committee regarding Abramhoff.
More on her in an old post I wrote at dk:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/8/18939/4716
BinGA wrote on March 30, 2007 3:54 PM:DanD:
You asked: "On this subject, why is Tim Griffin still the USA for Eastern Arkansas? Why hasn't he resigned? Will his nomination be put to the senate for rejection?"
Don't know why he's still there, but he said that if he had to go through the Senate confirmation process, he'd withdraw his name. Obviously, he doesn't want to have to answer any questions. But he's there for 120 days from his appointment at least, is he not? I don't think the revocation of Section 502 was retroactive, only prospective.
Code=mine. As in "republicans better negotiate the mine field very carefully?" heh
thebewilderness wrote on March 30, 2007 4:13 PM:I think some of these people are shredding the documents on the way out the door so their superiors can claim there "isn't much of a file."
aed wrote on March 30, 2007 5:09 PM:Is there an organizational chart for all of the employees of the White House? Where could I find that?
conrad skinner wrote on March 30, 2007 5:13 PM:I think the firings are a PR move. notice that following sampson's testimony, gonzalez refutes his testimony on the pre-firing meetings. The credibility of a fired employee is pitted against the cabinet level boss's. Rove's fired assistants' testimony will be compared to that of the boss who remains. The republican establishment impugns Iglesias' credibility. This is a play to line up the base behind the "authority" figures. I don't think any of these goofs are important enough to be rehabilitated as icons of the right ala Ollie North.
Austin Cooper wrote on March 30, 2007 5:38 PM:They're expendable. I can see someone like the ambitious Sampson trying to make a comeback as some kind of operative...lobbyist...maybe run for the house.
I have to talk down that side of me which simply wants vengance. I believe these Monsters from the American Political Id should be put down -- that the questioning of Tubby Kyle should have been much, much harsher -- that he and others like him should be paraded on television, publicly ridiculed, humiliated, indcicted; imprisoned; never again able to hold a position of trust in any form, etc. I really do want that. But I keep reminding myself to be patient.
Investigators, and prosecutors (real ones, not useless hacks like Sampson, Gooding, Griffin, or Paulose) build cases slowly, methodically. Sampson was a borderline hostile witness; so was Doar. But they're only the first. You draw circles and then keep drawing them, tighter.
I remember Watergate well -- and even if Fat Karl believes he does... well, his understanding of Watergate stops at "Gee -- don't get caught!"
But he, and many around him, are about to find out that America isn't a nation of rubes, where people are just a commodity to manipulate and cynicism is the basic truth. He's in very bad trouble, and there's nothing he can do to stave off what's inevitable.
Code=linen
otob wrote on March 30, 2007 6:47 PM:re: i can't remember anything...
i was just thinking about old jobs I've had. I probably couldn't remember every meeting, or every attendee to every meeting, off of the top of my head. But I'm pretty damn sure I could just flip open my old email and tell you who I sent the relevant emails to, who responded, what their responses were, etc.
And looking back, I know that reading up on it makes me remember even more details.
I guess we have to believe their testimony until proven otherwise, but it sure seems weird to me. Suspicious. Whatever.
Anonymous wrote on March 30, 2007 7:20 PM:Really, the code words are cool. Here they are (as far as reported above):
snake
west
round
degree
garden
still
spring
pull
profit
stiff
smell
front
wound
brain
mine
linen
and finally, the one I got:
regret
As in without "regret," Rove is toast.
littlesky wrote on March 30, 2007 7:23 PM:WH Political Director...hmmm, might this have anything to do with Doan and the GSA? I seem to recall Rove and company skating pretty close to the edge in the past with their presentations to the exec agencies on "helping" their team. Sure sounds like the job of a the WH Political Director to me.
"Great" code word...too bad you all don't allow HTML or have a preview function.
The Mugster wrote on March 30, 2007 7:43 PM:Woo-hoo!
SteveW wrote on March 30, 2007 8:02 PM:Code word = female...
as in Monica, Sara, and Susan, the toastesses of this thread!
Posted by: draftedin68
Date: March 30, 2007 01:28 PM
WROTE:
What I'd like to see is not just a list of who has left Duhhbya's administration, but WHERE they are now.
I sent an email to Josh a while back. It would be great if TPM or some other site could track all of these people. As we've seen with former Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I Admin. officials, these criminals (Elliott Abrams convicted in Iran Contra, pardoned by Bush Sr., and now responsible for Middle East policy in this Bush Admin...this guy is a full-fledged neocon/AIPAC member).
In any case, they need to be tracked, just as we do terrorists, because these folks are responsible for bringing us the war in Iraq and so much of what is plaguing our government/nation now. At every turn, they're a blight.
John Latimer wrote on March 30, 2007 10:57 PM:In my history book, Karl Rove is poised to go-down as a great American hero. Should the house of cards that "the architect" built fall, as it appears they will, he will go down in history as the man who did more than Richard Nixon to destroy the Grand Ol' Party. And he will have done it while trying to position the Republicans in control of a one party system.......Hubris, thy name is Karl Rove.
But let us pause to think where we would be if Allen and not Webb had won by a slim margin in November.
Jack wrote on March 30, 2007 11:56 PM:>Monica, Sara, and Susan, the toastesses of this thread
Let's not forget Jane! Much publicized is the use of a gwb43.com email account by Scott Jennings, as discovered in the emails. Many folks found another person, Jane Cherry, also using a gwb43.com email account in regard to a couple unrelated subjects.
But... I have seen no mention that Jane Cherry used her gwb43.com account to email Kyle Sampson... and to request from him a copy of the U.S. Attorney firing list!
On December 4, 2006, in an email titled "Subject: US Attorney Vacancies," Jane Cherry (jcherry@gwb43.com) wrote: "Just following up on Scott's behalf to see if we could get the list you discussed with him this weekend."
Kyle responded and provided the document that evening: "Sorry for the late response. Here is the status of U.S. Attorney appointments. As you will see, we need to get some names generated pronto."
*See Part 2 of files released 3/13/07 [OAG 054-055]
TexasEllen wrote on March 31, 2007 12:45 AM:Oh goodie! Code word attack as in attack every angle of this hydra.
Conley T. Gwinn wrote on March 31, 2007 4:22 AM:Too bad that the Corporate Media is not only unwilling to investigate and report this flagrant abuse of democracy, but even intent on deriding those who do so in lieu of those media efforts. Not only Congress, but "Dems" and "blogs" are being attacked in that Corporate Media as "partisan" for questioning Bungle's Boyz.
Conley T. Gwinn wrote on March 31, 2007 4:23 AM:Oh, AND Girlz!
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whizkid wrote on March 31, 2007 11:04 PM:These people can't go to Hell soon enough. But this is where we need to make sure Congress and the MSM do their jobs so we don't have to fill the streets of Washington DC with torches and pitchforks. Honest to Christ, this once proud nation has become a joke under the stewardship of these imbeciles.
TerryW wrote on April 1, 2007 12:08 AM:How many resignations does this make that are "probably" connected to the US Attorney debacle?
Anonymous wrote on April 2, 2007 10:11 AM:Every single one of the rats leaving the sinking ship are lawyering-up in preparation for THEIR tesitmony before congress. How many will take the 5th? How many will rat out others? How many already regret drinking the Bush/Rove/Gonzales cool aid? There is nothing more satisfying than seeing arrogant guilty people trying to hide/deny their malfeasance in the light of oversight. All righteous people need to do to hold the unworthy accountable is to accurately expose their true actions.
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