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steambomb wrote on April 11, 2007 9:48 AM:

I disagree. He should have been fired by now. Alberto has the goods on the administration. That is why he hasn't been fired. Congress should give Alberto "no quarter".

Kirk Tofte wrote on April 11, 2007 9:55 AM:

It is best for Alberto to "twist slowly, slowly in the wind" as far as I am concerned so that stories from all the swings states (New Mexico, Minnesota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and so forth) can get maximum play at TPM and elsewhere.

profmarcus wrote on April 11, 2007 9:57 AM:

i want gonzales to stay, and the reason i do is that i believe he provides a major firewall for his boss... now, you can argue that, with the firewall out of the way, george will be that much more vulnerable... that may be true, and, in fact, i believe that IS true... however, the longer gonzo stays, the more things are going to spin out of control for bush, the higher the water will back up behind the dam, and the greater the deluge when it finally cracks, bringing the entire house down with it... just one guy's thoughts...

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Punchy wrote on April 11, 2007 10:03 AM:

As if the President gives a shit about what the American populace thinks/says/feels....

Ron Byers wrote on April 11, 2007 10:04 AM:

I can't pass up leaving a message since my secret code is "snake."

If Gonzales were fired who would replace him. What about Wisconsin's Chief Judge R. Randa. After blowing the Georgia Thompson case his judicial career is in taters. He has certainly demonstrated that above all else he is a loyal Bushie.

kingcarrotjuice wrote on April 11, 2007 10:06 AM:

Hmmm. If he resigns, does that mean that the TV will stop talking about Don Imus? If so, the man's gotta go! One way or another, I am very much looking forward to April 17.

Otter wrote on April 11, 2007 10:11 AM:

I am tired of both the tactical thinking and the glee expressed above, as well as in other liberal forums, that causes people to wish that any situation play out in the way most harmful to Bush and the rest of his criminal conspiracy.

The only way to win the trust of the honest, non-brainwashed independents who have too often voted with the GOP is to ALWAYS TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Follow the law, play by the rules, and we will have the moral authority to hold the GOP to the rules. We all know that they can't win without cheating.

I, for one, am happy to see many Democratic Congressional leaders handling the US Attorney mess on that basis.

bobh wrote on April 11, 2007 10:27 AM:

Oh...you do know there are no more independent voters, right? They vote one way or the other, thats not independnet.

Deluded people.

Diogenes wrote on April 11, 2007 10:29 AM:

Please give me the name of any honest, non-brainwahsted independent who voted for Bush?

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Diogenes wrote on April 11, 2007 10:30 AM:

Please give me the name of any honest, non-brainwahsted independent who voted for Bush?

Anne wrote on April 11, 2007 10:32 AM:

There's nothing wrong with wanting people to be held accountable for their actions, and given the near-total absence of consequences for so many over the course of the last 6 years, it's hard to blame people for being happy that it may finally be happening at the highest levels of government.

Any sense that we want this to play out in a way that is the worst possible for Bush comes from the reality that nothing so far - as bad as it has been - has deterred him or many members of his administration from continuing to ride roughshod over the American people and the democracy in which we live. If we seem to be cheering for more bad things, it is only because we believe there just has to be a tipping point somewhere - and we desperately need it to tip.

As things have gotten worse, it has helped to distinguish what is right from what is wrong, and as long as we continue to push for what is right, for honesty and ethics, we are on the right side of this mess.

SOH wrote on April 11, 2007 10:33 AM:

I agree wholeheartedly with Otter.

Also, I'd caution against becoming overly confident in the days leading up to Gonzales' testimony before the Senate. There's so much *negative* and *insider* info. being spilled about all the difficulty he's having preparing for his testimony. The guy's a career lawyer, after all. But doesn't this strike anyone else as straight out of the Clinton team's playbook re: his testimony in the Lewinsky affair? Remember all those gleeful (from the talking heads on Fox, mostly) reports of how Clinton lost his cool and looked *unpresidential*? And, lo and behold, it turned out that stuff was leaked by the Clinton team to lower expectations ... I would bet the same is happening here by Gonzo's team. I hope Leahy et al are not banking on such reports.

Code word is *nail* ... heh, heh.

oldtree wrote on April 11, 2007 10:45 AM:

this is a very strange country now. Do supporters believe that the AG has done things that have broken the law and still support him? Or do they believe that he is blameless and innocent of any impropriety.
either way, stupidity is the norm. we can't claim innocence and ignorance at this point. I must put forward the assumption that nearly 50% of the people in this country are just fine with criminal behavior. not only fine, in favor of. not only in favor of, but also enjoying the rending of our constitution, the killing of foreigners they don't have to see, just be scared of.

I am deeply embarrassed to be a human. I am beyond disgust about having to be an American. The basic dignities we are granted in our country have been trashed and recalled by the junta.
one must wonder how this is going to end. it looks like a bad end with as much talk, and as little action as is currently pending.
I guess I am no longer fit company for such writings, as I still maintain the ideals that can't be compromised, that are not subject to argument.
I refuse to accept that my country is a criminal enterprise. but many of you have. many have become enamored of their new found status betting on war for profit.
gamblers require intervention.

yellojkt wrote on April 11, 2007 11:01 AM:

Torqueberto should go for gross abuses of the Constitution, not for poor personnel management. It's funny how the more this sinking ship lists, the more Dubya hangs on to Al.

Barbara wrote on April 11, 2007 11:06 AM:

Oh gosh--it's "mother" and it doesn't make me think of apple pie. I would guess that 50% of the people are not ok with criminal behavior but are in fact simply "protecting" themselves from the ugly facts. I have several, intelligent friends in that category. I personally find it appalling that they are not following these stories, but they prefer ignorant bliss to knowing what is going on. I have to say my obsession is interfering with my daily life.

djcrow22 wrote on April 11, 2007 11:24 AM:

To Anne, well put; the tipping point cannot come soon enough. On Lou Dobbs yesterday another example of the cancer growing throughout this administration: the systematic defunding and dismantling of the Consumer Product Safety Commission with another crony/lobbyist(Michael Baroody) from the National Association of Manufacturers placed in the top slot. Democrats must ignore the mounting accusations of "overeaching" by the right wing by deliberate,constant investigation and exposure of this systemic corruption of every branch of OUR GOVERNMENT.

Scott L wrote on April 11, 2007 12:36 PM:

ditto to oldtree

randron wrote on April 11, 2007 12:49 PM:

"Incompetence" in the Bush Administration is, apparently, to be worn as a badge of honor. It would be nice if our Presidunce (The Incompetor in Chief) could see that appointing incompetent people to positions they cannot and will not succeed in makes him appear to be a total, blathering idiot - but the fact that he IS a total, blathering idiot means his chances of recognizing the "error of his ways" NIL. Now, where's my poney?

What?! wrote on April 11, 2007 2:01 PM:

Richard Helms, CIA Chief was indicted and convicted of perjury before the US Senate in the 1970's.

Why should things be different today?

chris wrote on April 11, 2007 2:06 PM:

I disagree with otter, and think the above is beside the point. Letting this play out in public view -- even prolonging it -- is not the wrong thing to do because it makes BushCo look bad. There's not much is gonna happen from this crew that won't make 'em look bad, and running interference between their incompetence and independent voters is simply not our responsibility.

What we're seeing is the Democratic version of the now defunct Rovian long-term strategy, which was to make government appear (and, in fact, be) incompetent. The Democratic version is that it's not government that's incompetent, just Republican government. Irony of all ironies that Rove's plan will not just stop dead in its tracks but actually be used by smart people with a long range view to usher in a generation of Democratic hegemony.

Richard L. Adlof wrote on April 11, 2007 3:49 PM:

Resign/Not resign is not issue that requires addressing and, therefore, this bears all the trappings of qn another . . . ooo look at the kitty . . . misdirect. There is a significant body of tangible evidence pointing towards multiple instances of impeding and subverting justice (obstruction) as well as electioneering and a laundey list of other felonious infractions.

Asking us whether a guy, who should have never confirmed for the position of Attorneys' General based on the readily available information at THAT time, should Resign/Don't Resign is assinine. Of course, any honorable individual would have already resigned . . .

The Adminstration trying to run out the clock while openly and covertly inflicting as much damage on America as they can. Gonzales is a conspiritor. The next best thing to him is for Congress reject any and all of the jack-booted thugs George will attempt to appoint. Heck, the victimhood thing will be a bonus in their favor.

Whistler wrote on April 12, 2007 12:30 AM:

They're asking the wrong questions ... perhaps on the assumption that the presidency has some tiny shred of dignity left ... inherently, somewhere?

I'm betting a poll question of "Do you believe the entire Bush Administration ought to go to bed without its supper?" would rate around 90% "yes".

"Do they all deserve a 'time out'?" -- same #'s.

"Do you believe a single word these people say?" -- I'm betting on "hell no," at or above 45%.

"Do you respect the diginity of the presidency less, after all these years of Republican rule?" -- "I'm embarrassed to give an answer" at 40%+.

And so on.

Other possible questions I'd love them to ask ... but this time, of their Christian Right "base":

"Should Christians bear false witness against their global neighbors?" (It's a commandment.)

"Does the Bible say 'Blessed are the peacemakers'?" (It does; but they never read it.)

"Does your president say just the opposite?"

"Did you believe these people were Christians, when they first came to power"? -- followed up with -- "Do you believe they're Christians, now?"

(I say that latter one because I've had religeous types ask me if I thought Bush was the anti-christ. "No," I had to reply. "He's too stupid".)

But the biggie would be the military rank-and-file, getting to vote on "No confidence in the Commander In Chief" -- that would settle much!

rlasater wrote on April 12, 2007 11:09 AM:

Impeach W. Get it over with.

pre-amerikkkan wrote on April 12, 2007 2:20 PM:

It is a relatively young republic, only around 200 years or so and founded on ideals that covered up amazing dishonesty and theft? Maybe we are in the growing pangs of a "new" world still. Witness how our so-called democracy allowed the courts to steal the first w election via that airhead katherine Harris in florida or encouraged the K st. project and started a forever war on lies.

obviously, as a whole, we aren't the wisest nation on the planet but we can get through this crisis. i may be an inside outsider, but i at least believed that THE LAW worked for all of us equally. what a naif.

republican administrations throughout time have shown that all they are concerned with is commerce. it's time to find a wiser course, a real reform in all areas of our gov't or our country will be more isolated than ever.

this is still my country and i love her more than ever thanks to those of you who care so much. don't let the constitution and the bill of rights be high-jacked by fascists. it's up to us now.

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