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DoJ U.S. Attorney Doc Dump 6: Dump with a Vengeance
Oh, you knew it was coming.
Apparently some 1,000 pages of documents are forthcoming from the Justice Department as early as this evening or as late as tomorrow morning.
That's all about all that we can say at this point.
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Anonymous wrote on April 12, 2007 5:42 PM:And the bad news is they're all blank, but no one seems to know how they all got erased.
Node of Evil wrote on April 12, 2007 5:42 PM:Latest update from ThinkProgress is that the dump will be late tonight or tomorrow. Looking forward to raking.
enough wrote on April 12, 2007 5:49 PM:But...but...tonight is THURSDAY night and tomorrow morning is Friday MORNING.
Explosive Logorrhea wrote on April 12, 2007 6:00 PM:Midnight in DC is nine here in Seattle. I don't need sleep to work on a Friday, anyway.
chuckles wrote on April 12, 2007 6:01 PM:Oh boy, looks like a very long night...when will DW be impeached?
Security code: again(like watergate)
BG Portland, OR wrote on April 12, 2007 6:04 PM:3 - 1 that the document dump will be later Friday after the news cycle is "closed". 10-1 that all really juicy stuff is redacted for a) privacy, b) security or c) Executive priviledge purposes.
Any other odds??
Alfred Kelgarries wrote on April 12, 2007 6:17 PM:I have created a Wiki for the document dump. URL is below. I will email josh the password.
http://tpmdojdump.pbwiki.com/FrontPage
kady wrote on April 12, 2007 6:19 PM:I have no computer savvy--can turn it on, read my e-mail and favorite blogs, play a little poker--that's it. Reading you guys' has been a joy and very educational--I so look forward to your take and insights on this DUMP (funny that what my husband says when he needs to go . . . that's another story). Keep it up. Your detective work is superb, and will help lead to the truth this mis-administration is trying so hard to keep from the American people.
FMArouet wrote on April 12, 2007 6:29 PM:My security code is news--guess what's all over the news Georgie-Boy?
Just remember that they will have screened and redacted this dump.
They are still withholding and trying to delete the really embarrassing documents that may reveal criminal activity.
They are sloppy and inept, so they will of course make some mistakes of commission and omission in this release. We need to be especially alert for what is not in the dump, "the dog that doesn't bark"--perhaps because it was too busy eating Karl Rove's homework.
Meanwhile, follow the backups and archives. Repeat: follow the backups and archives. The IT professionals at DOJ, the White House, and BlackBerry will lead you to them.
HeyThereItsEric wrote on April 12, 2007 6:37 PM:Remember, the GWB43 e-mails were thrown into the spotlight by these dumps. There's an old line I remember from my days as a communication major: "You cannot not communicate."
Nobody is brilliant enough to redact every important clue. Not in a rush. Not when they're scared. Not when they haven't been trained in intelligence.
It's time to break out the eyedrops and reading glasses.
HeyThereItsEric wrote on April 12, 2007 6:44 PM:Why the document dump will be tonight:
The missing e-mails bus is speeding towards the White House. Throwing Gonzales under the wheels just might slow it down until the end of Friday's news cycle.
DF wrote on April 12, 2007 6:59 PM:I love this blog. Nothing like a late night dump to raise your spirits.
fatkat wrote on April 12, 2007 7:04 PM:FMArouet...
Repeat: follow the backups and archives. The IT professionals at DOJ, the White House, and BlackBerry will lead you to them.
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fatkat wrote on April 12, 2007 7:49 PM:Can you explain alittle more on this topic? I want to fully understand and what to look for.
Thanks
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03751.pdf
this report is from 2002 to the Attorney General, Justice Dept. regarding their IT security information sharing with other agency's. What the report give you, is a window into the flaws that they do with facts that support the report. An interesting read, and others may see something that I missed!
Node of Evil wrote on April 12, 2007 8:41 PM:Ah, a nice tidbit from that GAO report:
'However, Justice officials told us that, although they had evaluated the _contractor’s_ [emphasis mine] management of the WAN’s circuits, they had not performed any tests to determine the effectiveness of technical and other controls associated with the WAN.'
That contractor is Sprint (they're named in a footnote near the end of the report). I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Sprint's severs handle a fair amount of the traffic to and from the DOJ/EOUSA. That being the case, they may have server logs/backups that could contain the emails in question. Hopefully that's true, I want lots of document dumps to ferret through this summer.
fatkat wrote on April 12, 2007 9:15 PM:Ok, call me a crazy lady, but there's a web site called neopets.com and I am a avid player on the site, but my curious got the best of me today and I decided to type in gwb43...oh, its there since 2004!
http://www.neopets.com/search.phtml?selected_type=pet&string=GWB43
FMArouet wrote on April 12, 2007 11:41 PM:fatcat:
Any large corporation or governmental entity will have in place a routine system for backup of data each day onsite. A typical part of the routine will be to send backup tapes weekly to a secure off-site location miles from the organization's main IT center, just in case a fire, natural disaster, terrorist attack, or even nuclear war disrupts the main office/headquarters and its associated IT equipment and the data residing on its file and application servers. Often these backups are made by the IT staff late on a Friday night at the end of the work week.
It is beyond belief that the White House and the DOJ would not have these complete, intact backups/data archives securely stored somewhere in the Virginia or Maryland countryside. There may even be multiple locations for such backups in order to provide the redundancy necessary to prevent the utter disaster of a complete loss of critical data. The IT professionals at the White House and DOJ will know where these off-site storage facilities are.
Backup policies for e-mails vary with various commercial service providers. However, since BlackBerry seems to have been Karl Rove's favorite medium, this company and its server infrastructure are certainly worth a hard look by investigators.
If the RNC e-mail accounts (such as gwb43.com) used by White House and DOJ personnel made use of the SMTP protocol, the best way to find and recover the e-mails would likely be to scrutinize the hard drives of the computers used by those personnel. Even if Rove, Jennings, Goodling and others thought that they had deleted incriminating e-mails, many of the deleted files could likely be recovered from their computers or handheld devices with standard forensic hardware and software, such as EnCase, a program which is widely used by police and intelligence services worldwide.
We don't know (but, again, the IT professionals at the White House and DOJ would know) whether Rove and others were accessing these RNC e-mail accounts through a dial-up modem, just through their BlackBerry wireless devices, or through an e-mail or web application server (presumably with appropriate firewalls, routers, and DMZ security) set up in a separate "sand box" in the White House or DOJ IT infrastructure.
And if any of the RNC e-mail system was web-based HTML (port 80) traffic, it should be sitting out there in server farms at the service provider, just as is the case with Yahoo, HotMail, Verizon, or any other provider of webmail. Retrieving such web-based e-mails would be a trivial task for the investigator with subpeona in hand.
DJW wrote on April 13, 2007 12:06 AM:An equally interesting question is how would you set up a system to avoid archiving emails or successful forensics? How difficult is that to pull off?
My code is shoe, as in Congress could use a really good gumshoe to find those emails.
SeeDee wrote on April 13, 2007 1:48 AM:With a code word like 'seed', I could not resist...
As Senator Leahy spoke earlier yesterday...look around a bit among the brighter and most cyber-attuned high-schoolers, put together a half-dozen teams and sic 'em on the 'lost' documents.
Promise free lifetime pizza to the most successful team, and within a couple weeks those 'lost' items would surface.
sponson wrote on April 13, 2007 3:16 AM:Leahy and Conyers should immediately subpoena the e-mails - from the NSA. Rove and some 50 other White House officials (according to Perino's briefing today) were using RNC accounts. This is illegal, and apparently well known within the White House, a fact that would leak. Many of these officials, including Rove, had Top Secret security clearance. Therefore there was an ongoing violation of the law, and it was endangering the exposure of classified information. Imagine Leahy asking the NSA chief in a hearing, "are you telling me you weren't aware that Karl Rove, who has Top Secret clearance, was doing 95% of his e-mails on an insecure commercial server? It was in the newspapers!" "Are you telling me you didn't want to monitor which information was making it across the internet in an insecure fashion, coming out of the White House and going to commercial servers without encryption?" The NSA director can hardly reply by saying "we had a policy of checking every e-mail in America and overseas possible EXCEPT those of the RNC."
RobW wrote on April 13, 2007 6:40 AM:fatkat: Hilarious- the GWB43 Neopet is a blue elephant? Wouldn't that be better for Lindsay Graham?
The Witch wrote on April 13, 2007 10:16 AM:OK, it's Friday morning... do we have any documents yet?
bobbys wrote on April 13, 2007 1:34 PM:Set 7 – page 208
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From: H.E. Cummins
Sent: Tue 2/20/2007 5:06PM
To: Dan Bogden, Paul K. Charlton; David Iglesias; Carol Lam; McKay, John (Law Adjunct)
Subject: on another note
Mike Elston from the DAG's office called me today. The call was amiable enough, but clearly spurred by the Sunday post article. The essence of this message was that they feel like they are taking unnecessary flak to avoid trashing each of us specifically or further, but if they feel like any of us intent to continue to offer quotes to the press, or organize behind the scenes congressional pressure, then they would feel forced to somehow pull their gloves off and offer public criticisms to defend their actions more fully. I can’t offer any specific quotes, but that was clearly the message. I was tempted to challenge him and say something movie-like such as “are you threatening ME???”, but instead I kind of shrugged it off and said I didn’t sense that anyone was intending to perpetuate this. He mentioned my quote on Sunday and I didn’t apologize for it, told him it was true and that everyone involved should agree with the truth of my statement, and pointed out to him that I stopped short of calling them liars and merely said that IF they were doing as alleged they should retract. I also made it a point to tell him that all of us have turned down multiple invitations to testify. He reacted quite a bit to the idea of anyone voluntarily testifying and it seemed clear that they would see that as a major escalation of the conflict meriting some kind of unspecified form of retaliation.
I don’t personally see this as any big deal and it sounded like the threat of retaliation amounts to a threat that they would make their recent behind doors senate presentation public. I didn’t tell him that I had heard about the details in that presentation and found it to be a pretty weak threat since everyone that heard it apparently thought it was weak.
I don’t want to stir you up conflict or overstate the threatening undercurrent in the call, but the message as clearly there and you should be aware before you speak to the press again if you choose to do that. I don’t feel like I am betraying him by reporting this to you because I think that is probably what he wanted me to do. Of course, I would appreciate maximum opsec regarding this email and ask that you not forward it or let other read it.
Bud
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