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profmarcus wrote on May 18, 2007 1:16 PM:

please, please, please, let the house of cards come tumbling down... i'm SO-O-O-O-OOO VERY TIRED of waiting...

http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/

Woodhall Hollow wrote on May 18, 2007 1:21 PM:

Dear Harriet...

Just to reassure you that we have good ways to distinguish between those who have

"exhibited loyalty to the President and the Attorney General."

and those who have

"chafed against administration initiatives, etc.

(I am particularly fond of the etc part)

Love Kyle

jawbone wrote on May 18, 2007 1:24 PM:

A map would be interesting--with colors to indicate red, blue, violet, and pink--to indicate which are swing states and which secure blue states Rove wantd to take over.

(And I can't do one.)

jawbone wrote on May 18, 2007 1:24 PM:

A map would be interesting--with colors to indicate red, blue, violet, and pink--to indicate which are swing states and which secure blue states Rove wantd to take over.

(And I can't do one.)

neil wrote on May 18, 2007 1:26 PM:

I don't see a list of 26 or a list of 30. All I see is the list of 13 in the graphic. Where are the rest of the names?

jawbone wrote on May 18, 2007 1:26 PM:

A map would be interesting--with colors to indicate red, blue, violet, and pink--to indicate which are swing states and which secure blue states Rove wantd to take over.

(And I can't do one.)

And, honest, I only clicked post more than once because nothing posted...honest!

UhOh wrote on May 18, 2007 1:26 PM:

When in doubt, procrastinate... When all else fails, obfuscate... Delay, stonewall, run out the clock... Why are the Dumbocrats letting the Bushites play these games? The REAL GAME is IMPEACHMENT - no matter how much the corporate news media ridicules the idea!!!

UhOh wrote on May 18, 2007 1:26 PM:

When in doubt, procrastinate... When all else fails, obfuscate... Delay, stonewall, run out the clock... Why are the Dumbocrats letting the Bushites play these games? The REAL GAME is IMPEACHMENT - no matter how much the corporate news media ridicules the idea!!!

shrinkandhammer wrote on May 18, 2007 1:29 PM:

What about Yates. I thought there were e-mails from Miers about her?

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2007 1:29 PM:

Joseph Cannon has already made a map.

Cervantes wrote on May 18, 2007 1:30 PM:

What happened to Leahy's 10-a.m. deadline?

anne wrote on May 18, 2007 1:30 PM:

Don't forget Frederick Black, the one who hot a nerve by subpoena-ing Abramoff...then got demoted the next day. From a 2005 article:

"A US grand jury in Guam opened an investigation of controversial lobbyist Jack Abramoff more than two years ago, but President Bush removed the supervising federal prosecutor, and the probe ended soon after."

So, Bush's purge of the US Attornerys started in 2003, if not earlier.

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2007 1:31 PM:

Sorry, here's the map link.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2007/05/purge-states-and-purple-states.html

noblejoanie wrote on May 18, 2007 1:38 PM:

How about a map that shows which states have electronic voting and which don't along with red/blue/swing.

I continue to wonder if the push to suppress the vote was stronger in states with paper ballots and thus whether USAGs from such states who didn't pursue "voter fraud" cases were most heavily targeted.

cds wrote on May 18, 2007 1:40 PM:

Jon Stewart plays the lies by Gonzales.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/18/the-daily-show-catches-gonzales-hypocrisy-on-mcnulty/

Katerina wrote on May 18, 2007 1:41 PM:

The Post graphic seems to contain an error with reference to Biskupic. They don't note that he either resigned or was fired; it makes it seem like he's still there.

Nestor wrote on May 18, 2007 1:45 PM:

It is really looking like way past time for a purge of another sort... the mass impeachment of Bush and his cronies.

Nestor wrote on May 18, 2007 1:45 PM:

It is really looking like way past time for a purge of another sort... the mass impeachment of Bush and his cronies.

drational wrote on May 18, 2007 1:48 PM:

We still don't know all the Who part.
McClatchy said their source had 4 more names, but the article doesn't name them. The 26 are:
1 Lam, Carol SDCA
2 Chiara, Margaret WDMI
3 Cummins, Bud ARK
4 Ryan, Patrick NDCA
5 Bogden, Daniel NV
6 McKay, John WDWA
7 Charlton, Paul AZ
8 Iglesias, David NM
9 Graves, Todd WDMO
10 Miller, Gregory NDFL
11 Leone, William Col
12 Silsby, Paula Maine
13 Buchanan, Mary Beth WDPA
14 Christie, Christopher NJ
15 Warner, Karl "Kasey" WV
16 Heffelfinger, Thomas MN
17 York, David AL
18 Wagoner, Anna WDNC
19 Biskupic, Steven EDWI
20 Huber, David KY
21 Lampton, Dunn Miss
22 O'Meilia, David OK
23 Marino, Thomas PA
24 Brownlee, John VA
25 Wood, Frank Maxwell GA
26 Connoly, Colm DE

Vulture Breath wrote on May 18, 2007 1:49 PM:

Biskupic is still there.

sailmaker wrote on May 18, 2007 1:55 PM:

I wish they would push the collection of lists back to say oh, 2000. Then we would have a time frame for the firing of Fred Black USA CCNM and Guam in 2002. How close getting the goods and prosecuting DeLay/Abramoff was he??

DaveinNY wrote on May 18, 2007 1:55 PM:

Maybe I'm off-base here, but if the list is up to a third of all attorneys, doesn't this undercut the case that this was targeted retribution against specific USAs? I mean, if the administration wanted to bring in a whole wave of new people, isn't that their prerogative?

Better to focus on the few worst cases where there was direct retribution than to make the case that this was a broad purge, no?

laura wrote on May 18, 2007 2:00 PM:

All Roads lead to Rove. We are going to see the house of cards cave in shortly. It came to me this morning that there may be many more people involved in this scandal. Think about it. If you want to keep a good secret, you have to make as many people complicit; that way the blame gets spread around in short order. It would not surprise me if we find that senators and representatives are also a big part of this twisted tale. If you want to see something really disturbing, google "Armed Madhouse"

foomanchu wrote on May 18, 2007 2:05 PM:

"So now we know who, how, and when"

Do we really know "how"? If by how, you mean how they were put on the list, I believe that's still a mystery, isn't it?

"the vast majority of the U.S. attorneys once targeted for firing never heard any complaints from their superiors about their performance"

...and neither did the ones fired.

cvcobb01 wrote on May 18, 2007 2:06 PM:

Don't we already know why this happened? Weren't they just trying to install a mix of Loyal Bushies in battleground states, while also getting rid of a few renegade USAs like Fitz and Lam? I know the larger list was broader than that, but the final one tells the tale, doesn't it?

With that in mind, I don't see the voter suppression stuff as the reason for all of this. Seems to me that it was just the intended effect of having Loyal Bushies in the right place, ready, willing and able to take orders from HQ, which in turn took orders from the political wing of the White House. So today it's voter fraud cases, tomorrow it becomes ignoring corporate malfeasance or some such.

This all seems to me to be pretty well established by now, and making the USAs themselves the issue overlooks the real one - control of each and every USA from the White House, for whatever reason suited the politics of the day.

Princess Sparkle Pony wrote on May 18, 2007 2:12 PM:

Were any of the fired prosecuters --an of them at all-- members of the Federalist Society or the American Enterprise Institute? I'm guessing not. But I'm also guessing that just about all their replacements were.

Princess Sparkle Pony wrote on May 18, 2007 2:12 PM:

Were any of the fired prosecuters --any of them at all-- members of the Federalist Society or the American Enterprise Institute? I'm guessing not. But I'm also guessing that just about all their replacements were.

BushLips SinxShips wrote on May 18, 2007 2:13 PM:

"doesn't this undercut the case that this was targeted retribution against specific USAs"

This is the very point: to hide specifically targeted firings with a plethora of firings.

While preparing for the coup, the junta figured that exessive amounts of firings would draw attention, they decided to pare the list down as much as they could, while maintaining a ratio: for each investivations touching a GOP, a matching "embattled border-state USA" would be found to add cover.

phil james wrote on May 18, 2007 2:18 PM:

Agree with Laura on who. Rove does all of the thinking on domestic policy and process in this administration. And domestic policy and process in this administration function for one purpose and one purpose only...to secure and perpetuate Republican power. That's what he does and that's all he does. The why of the firings is simple. To place political operatives in extremely powerful positions to guarantee "voter fraud" cases are made on a regular basis before elections and to guarantee that corrupt Republicans at all levels get a free pass. The latter would include nipping any developing investigations in the bud before they net too many crooked Republicans. And the whole scheme would have worked if the message had been delivered more deftly by the perpetrators. Turdblossom got caught having to lie, through the mouthpieces that have testified so far, about the firings being based on performance, which pissed off the otherwise silent victims. He fired people with backbones who fought back.

Vulture Breath wrote on May 18, 2007 2:18 PM:

If they'd been smarter about it, and fired them over the course of 6 months to a year instead of seven on Decmeber 7th, would we even have noticed? It was the mini-purge of seven that got some people's attention. And blaming it on poor performance, of course. Man, these people are stupid. In fact, they could have forced the resignations of these 26 over the course of a year or so and kept it pretty secret. As we've seen, the fired prosecutors were willing to go quietly and pretend it was for family reasons or need to make more money.

ebmck wrote on May 18, 2007 2:20 PM:

Notice that Cummins' name appears on only the original list from Feb '05 and the final list of those sho were actually fired. Where was the discussion on him in between -- I guess it wasn't on paper. Maybe Tim Griffin knows....

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2007 2:23 PM:

do we have new documents released today - at least re Biskupic? Milwaukee paper indicates there are - fwiw, the two prosecuted officials mentioned in this story were Dems.

his appearance on the hit list seems to come more or less at the time he started his investigation of alleged vote fraud in Milwaukee . . . could it be because he was actually investigating as vs. passing judgment without investigating? could it be because he decided to do the investigation jointly with the Democratic DA of Milwaukee County Michael McCann, instead of on his own?

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=5/18/2007&id=23736
FRIDAY, May 18, 2007, 12:46 p.m.
By Steven Walters
Biskupic's reviews good before 'hit list'

Madison - U.S. Attorney Steven Biskupic was praised by his Washington, D.C., bosses for anti-terrorism work and convicting prominent Milwaukee-area politicians Gary George and Paul Henningsen in 2004 - months before he was reportedly added to a list of federal prosecutors who should be replaced, documents showed today.

"The Eastern District of Wisconsin has effectively dedicated its resources to advocate and implement the (Justice) Department's national priorities," Mary Beth Buchanan, director of the Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys, wrote Biskupic.

The letter was one of more than 100 pages of Justice Department documents requested by Wisconsin's two U.S. senators, Democrats Herb Kohl and Russ Feingold, that were made public today. The Democratic senators have asked for Justice Department documents on Biskupic's decision to charge a now-exonerated state purchasing official, Georgia Thompson.

Buchanan singled out Biskupic for "the investigation of five anti-terrorism cases, exemplifying your district's proactive role in the fight against terror. She also said the convictions Biskupic had obtained of former Milwaukee Ald. Paul Henningsen and former state Sen. Gary George "will help restore the public trust in its elected officials."

The praise of Biskupic in late 2004 deepened questions about why senior Justice Department leaders months later added his name was added to a list of U.S. attorneys who should be replaced for not putting enough emphasis on the priorities set by President Bush. Some Republican leaders had expressed concern that Biskupic had not been aggressive enough in prosecuting election fraud. Although eight federal prosecutors were later replaced, Biskupic was not.

Questioned by Feingold at a Senate committee hearing, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said he did not recall details about why Biskupic's name was added to the list of U.S. attorneys who should be replaced.

drational wrote on May 18, 2007 2:24 PM:

"Were any of the fired prosecuters --any of them at all-- members of the Federalist Society"

Yes. Patrick Ryan, NDCA is a Federalist Society Member. This according to Monica Goodling's spreadsheet (see TPM coverage of goodling from several weeks ago for the PDF). He was also the 1 of 7 fired on or about 12/7/06 who had real competency issues.

As to the others, I don't know. Hefflefinger's replacement Rachel Paulose is an avowed Federalist, and Schlozman (Todd Graves' replacement) is pictured giving a speech in front of a Fed Soc podium. Someone could go back to monica's list and figure out if her other 9 or 10 identified federalists were fired....

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2007 2:28 PM:

Arkansas still stands out as a special case. It has been established that Cummins knew that he was going to be replaced by Griffin - solely to give Griffin a chance to be a big boy.

Arkansas is also weird in a few other ways. The number 3 in that office, the Assistant US Attorney for Criminal Division, Robert Govar, was a noted long-term Bill Clinton hater. Govar was recently demoted because he used prison labor at his house, and, once discovered, sent threatening e-mails using his government account to the journalist that outed him.

http://www.arkansasleader.com/2007/05/editorialsus-prosecutor-demoted-over.html

Something's not right in Arkansas.

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2007 2:30 PM:

Didn't Clinton fire 30 USAs in 1998? After firing all 92 USAs in 1993!

ding7777 wrote on May 18, 2007 2:39 PM:

Why would Elston put Mary Beth Buchanan (Pittsburgh) on the 11/2006 list? Didn't Mary Beth serve as a "loyal Bushie" when she refused to investigate Santorum's children's questionable residency requirements.

wagonjak wrote on May 18, 2007 2:44 PM:

The thing to do now is to look at the USAs who stayed in office after appearing on the list and learn what cases (against Dems) they pursued and which cases (against Repubs) they dropped.

This would make some very interesting reading!

Lawrence wrote on May 18, 2007 3:02 PM:

Didn't Clinton fire 30 USAs in 1998? After firing all 92 USAs in 1993!

NO!.

misplaced wrote on May 18, 2007 3:07 PM:

posted May 18 2:28pm by ????
"Arkansas still stands out as a special case. It has been established that Cummins knew that he was going to be replaced by Griffin - solely to give Griffin a chance to be a big boy."

"Something's not right in Arkansas."

As an Arkansan and a former staffer for an AR Senator, I take exception to your last statement. There's plenty right with Arkansas, but they're STILL tired from eight years of being on the defensive about everything from land deals to sexual partners to what kind of toothpaste they used -- so don't be so quick to lump everyone together. Let's not forget that Pryor and Lincoln have been calling for Griffin's removal since March.

That being said, there is DEFINITELY something wrong in Arkansas with regard to this issue. Cummins may have known all along that he was going to be replaced by Tim Griffin so he could finally stand up to pee, but something made him (Cummins) change his mind about thay being okay. Was it simply Griffin's loose lips with regard to the Patriot Act provision that was going to keep in that post until the second coming? Or did he grow a conscience?

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2007 5:14 PM:

I'm curious about David O'Meilia, the USA in Northern Oklahoma, who showed up on one of the lists. Could there be an Abramoff/Indian gaming connection?

Or maybe he was seen as being too provencial; from his resume it doesn't look like he ever has set foot outside Oklahoma. He may be a loyal Republican yet not have "loyal Bushie" credentials if he hasn't been involved in much above the state level.

Then, if there was a corruption investigation concern, no shortage of crooked pols in that state (*cough* Inhofe *cough*).

Maybe it's coincidence that so many USAs in Indian Country jurisdictions were on the firing lists at one time or another.

drational wrote on May 18, 2007 5:31 PM:

About indian gaming:
The white house counsel charged with approving the iglesias replacement in new mexico (Rove's big project) is Leslie Fahrenkopf, daughter of american gaming assoc president and former RNC chair, Frank Fahrenkopf. New Mexico + Rove + Indian Gaming + negotiated reduction down to 8% tax on Gambling revenue in New Mexico + Daughter of AGA makes the "final call" about who the nominee is....
Fishy.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/7/7133/25414

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2007 5:34 PM:

"Arkansas still stands out as a special case. It has been established that Cummins knew that he was going to be replaced by Griffin - solely to give Griffin a chance to be a big boy.

"Arkansas is also weird in a few other ways. The number 3 in that office, the Assistant US Attorney for Criminal Division, Robert Govar, was a noted long-term Bill Clinton hater. Govar was recently demoted because he used prison labor at his house, and, once discovered, sent threatening e-mails using his government account to the journalist that outed him.

"http://www.arkansasleader.com/2007/05/editorialsus-prosecutor-demoted-over.html

"Something's not right in Arkansas.

"Posted by:
Date: May 18, 2007 02:28 PM"

Arkansas Project. A re-run of the refuted "scandals" slung at the Clintons for 8 years.

Hillary's running for presidnet.

There is potential for large voter turn-out in AR in support of Hillary.

SC = snake. As in, Bush, et al., is a snake farm.

Robin Boerner wrote on May 18, 2007 7:49 PM:

Page 11 of the document collection is interesting. It is an email from Kyle Sampson to Harriet Miers September 13 2006. It lists Alaska as a district with a vacancy without a candidate. Since Nelson Cohen was put in as Patriot Act US Attorney on August 22nd over Ted Stevens either A) true objections, or B)crocidile tears.

If it is A why was Nelson Cohen put in over the objections of the then Senate Pro Tem and Bridge to No Where builder extraordinaire Ted Stevens? Why was Ted objecting to a "white collar crime specialist" showing up?

If it was B why was Nelson Cohen put here in Alaska and what was he promised if he did his handlers bidding?

A hint might be the fact that Burgess was promoted to federal judge by Bush and he failed to prosecute 40 something counts of fisheries fraud (I would have to check Stephen Taufen's Alaska Report story for the details again, he has posted it here).

Another interesting question is: who is that Alaskan Senator A or B that the FBI supposedly has a sealed indictment against up here? The whole Alaska investigation is supposedly being handled out of the Pulic Integrity Section of the DOJ out of DC and Nelson Cohen's name hasn't been mentioned in the arrests last week.

Something doesn't add up here.

Robin Boerner wrote on May 18, 2007 7:55 PM:

Ted Stevens & Corruption: Move Over Duke Cunningham
8/24/06

Kodiak, Alaska

The Anchorage Daily News ran a story titled, "Attorney selection steams Stevens." The appointment of Nelson Cohen as the new United States Attorney General for Alaska has greatly upset U.S. Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK). Ted's probably upset for good reasons: Adak Pollock, real estate deals, earmarks, and legislative end-runs in fisheries management and rights allocations (crab rationalization and other nefarious giveaways).

Cohen was the chief of the White Collar Crime Division when he served as the assistant attorney general for the United States in Pennsylvania.

For many years, Groundswell has been asking federal special agents from multiple agencies for assistance in ensuring that Alaska gets a new US AG who is not part of the Alaska crony and political damage control system. We suspected something was seriously wrong when former U.S. attorney general Timothy Burgess failed to prosecute the Adak Crab Allocation perjury charges, after Larry Davison and I filed a federal petition in 2003. And amazingly, Burgess soon got a judgeship.

Anytime Burgess wants to provide answers to this situation, he can start (please) by answering publicly "Why did the US AG office fail to prosecute the Adak Crab Allocation perjury and the multiple counts?" And, "Why, once the federal agents found the plan in writing to break through the crab caps, did the US AG office not prosecute Dr. Terry L. Leitzell, chief counsel for Icicle Seafoods?"

An earlier Groundswell article mentions Burgess' close association with Alaska's powerful Republicans, and how crooked we feel those powerhouse players have been. No wonder Ted is deeply upset that the White House has begun to correct that "inside" bias, and ensure that Ted Stevens is no longer "in control of" the Justice department here, too. It's enough he headed the fourth branch of government, Appropriations, and still runs the Senate Commerce show.

Our Writ of Mandamus, an extraordinary writ to command the National Marine Fisheries Service's general counsel office to properly handle a perjury (false testimony) before the North Pacific Fisheries Management Council was filed on January 13, 2003, in the Western District of the United States Court in Seattle, Washington. We served the pro se (we wrote it and filed it) writ (for injunctive relief) on then U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft in Washington D.C.

The NOAA Office of Law Enforcement soon began a criminal investigation regarding Adak. Eventually, the largest fine in NOAA history was levied against Icicle Seafoods, Adak Fisheries and related parties, yet the $3.44 million Notice of Violation and Assessment has still not been finalized. We are awaiting word from the government, after an appeal occurred this past January before an administrative judge, in Seattle. What was remarkable, though, was the number of counts left on the table when only the crab cap violation (breaking rules under the American Fisheries Act) was handled. And you've read from John Enge's pieces that crab fishermen have talked with federal agents who were upset, too, that the other counts went nowhere.

Here's a reminder of how to properly deal with institutionalized corruption: "March 3, 2006, SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- Former GOP Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham was sentenced Friday to eight years and four months in federal prison for taking $2.4 million in bribes from at least three defense contractors. "House Speaker and fellow Republican Dennis Hastert issued a statement after Cunningham's sentencing stating that he hopes the congressman's prison term sends "a strong message" that nobody is above the law. "It is my hope that Congressman Cunningham will spend his incarceration thinking long and hard about how he broke the trust of the voters that elected him and those on Capitol Hill who served with him," Hastert said."

Groundswell's advice is that Ted should be out buying new stationary, and the return address should say Cellblock 666, Leavenworth County, Kansas.

See Writ here

Stephen Taufen - Groundswell Fisheries Movement

A public watchdog and advocate for fishermen and their coastal communities. Taufen is an "insider" who blew the whistle on the international profit laundering between global affiliates of North Pacific seafood companies, who use illicit accounting to deny the USA the proper taxes on seafood trade. The same practices are used to lower ex-vessel prices to the fleets, and to bleed monies from our regional economy. Contact Stephen Taufen

http://www.alaskareport.com/stephen-taufen30009.htm

Ron Thompson wrote on May 18, 2007 9:49 PM:

And what do the final 4 added, all red states, (Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska, and Tennessee) have in common? Three of them had Democratic governors running for reelection in 2006, and the fourth had Ben Nelson running for reelection to the Senate. The three governors were so popular that if reelected they might be a formidable candidate for the Senate in 4 or 6 years. An aggressive U.S. Attorney might have done what was attempted in Wisconsin, convicting a state contracting officer and then attempting to get her to roll over on the Democratic governor.
Remember, the Rove Republican Machine doesn't steal only when they think they've got something important to lose. They do it for practice, or out of force of habit.

citizen spot wrote on May 19, 2007 3:24 AM:

What it really boils down to is the provision in the most recent (Republican Majority) passing of the Patriot Act that allowed for US Attorney's to be appointed WITHOUT senate confirmation. Politburo, much?

John Boyer wrote on May 19, 2007 1:48 PM:

"USA's we should now condiser pushing out." that's how it was framed. I wonder if they meant like pushed out of a moving bus or off an airplane in mid flight? Pushing out doesn't necessarily have anything to do with poor performance, rather it sounds like shunning or excommunicating. I guess god has spoken. Right Monica?

molly wrote on May 19, 2007 4:55 PM:

Paula Silsby of Maine has 24 years with the justice dept. Supposedly good..although temporary...but more importantly...if you vote in Maine you can feel confident it doesn't switch tracks unexpectedly and go for the other guy.That's the gist. And don't investigate republicans. Not as bad as a blow job.

molly wrote on May 19, 2007 4:56 PM:

Paula Silsby of Maine has 24 years with the justice dept. Supposedly good..although temporary...but more importantly...if you vote in Maine you can feel confident it doesn't switch tracks unexpectedly and go for the other guy.That's the gist. And don't investigate republicans.

MisterApologist wrote on May 20, 2007 2:19 PM:

On my website I’ve exposed Monica Goodling and her boyfriend/Assistant US Attorney for Virginia Richard Parker (with 4 pictures)…. (she most likely got him the job)
(http://misterapologist.blogspot.com/)

Its already been reported that the US Attorney for Western Virginia, John Brownlee, was the FIRST name on the list of 5 possible candidates for firing ……

… Perhaps it would be pertinent to ask how Goodling’s boyfriend got the job as Assistant U.S. Attorney in Virginia… and perhaps it might be a good time to figure out why the US Attorney from Virginia (a battleground state) was put on the termination list….

Sam wrote on May 20, 2007 4:47 PM:

I'm very surprised to see that our USA from Nebraska, Michael Heavican, was on the list. Fortunately for us here in the Cornhusker state, Mr. Heavican was appointed as Chief Justice of the Nebraska Supreme Court-by a Republican governor-before he could get fired.

The fact that DOJ should even consider someone of Heavican's reputation (which is excellent) for termination ought to tell you that there were other considerations at work. Let the impeachment proceedings begin!

sailmaker wrote on May 21, 2007 2:18 AM:

I am asking a slightly different question. Who told the the Republicans that the USAs were up for review, how and when did they know it? They didn't learn it by osmosis. It didn't come through the ether. How did the Republicans learn that their complaints would be heard? Cherchez les emails ! Pull the threads back to the start of the chain. Subpeona the hard drives and the servers.

SC: Vinceranno: we shall win (listening to Turandot)