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Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 9:59 AM:

From today's WP:

""All I ever wanted to do was serve this president, this administration, this department,"

Someone pointed out here yesterday, that She didn’t, and likely still doesn’t, understand that her duty was first to her country.

Maybe she’ll get a question about that.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:07 AM:

I'm thinking she's gonna do her best to portray herself as a rogue agent and fall on the sword for the administration. She's a "loyal Bushie" and while sane people would be thinking about saving their own asses she might consider herself a hero if she takes the fall for Rove and the White House. I'm no longer expecting much will come of this. Hope I'm wrong.
Code Word: nose
Watch to see if her nose grows while she testifies.

asdf wrote on May 23, 2007 10:15 AM:

She may actually believe the buck stopped at her desk, that’s the beauty of using stooge like her for this job. With that said, she’ll still need to lie to protect some communications and involvements of the Generals in the War Against Liberalism, but that’s OK since she’ll do it in the name of God.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:15 AM:

Looks like she got a makeover. How sweet. I wanna see this bitch wither.
Code Word: public
Public humiliation.

Richard Blair wrote on May 23, 2007 10:16 AM:

"she might consider herself a hero"

No - she will consider herself a martyr for the cause. Big difference.

Richard Blair wrote on May 23, 2007 10:17 AM:

"she might consider herself a hero"

No - she will consider herself a martyr for the cause. Big difference.

Spencer's Mom wrote on May 23, 2007 10:23 AM:

PLEASE tell me she will be sworn in! On a bible!

PEACE

hotornot wrote on May 23, 2007 10:23 AM:

well, at least her hair is better than it looked in that other picture.

akingump wrote on May 23, 2007 10:26 AM:

if she can't find another legal job after this, she could always become her attorney John Dowd's secretary and run an escort service.

Yenta wrote on May 23, 2007 10:27 AM:

I just want to hear the fact, the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I also want to know how one makes someone like Monica Goodling understand the Constitution of the United States, the law, and the seriousness of the alleged offense.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:28 AM:

Conyers sucking up to the Republicans yet again. Maybe there are some Code Pink types he can raise hell with as well.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:29 AM:

What the fuck Conyers. Who gives a shit about the cameras. Just get it started. Damn!

Xman wrote on May 23, 2007 10:30 AM:

You got it, anon,
but in a cult of personality, one must swear personal loyalty...and we know that happened everywhere in the bush admin.
Can anyone say "nazi"?

Spencer's Mom wrote on May 23, 2007 10:31 AM:

Is it just me, or does Monica have vacant eyes? Wonder what drugs she was given to make sure she "can't recall" anything of substance...

PEACE

TOS wrote on May 23, 2007 10:31 AM:

Oh Gawd, it's these people in the House Judiciary Comittee again...remember the last time? They had no idea what was going on. I don't have high hopes.....

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:31 AM:

Good grief- she has a zombified look on her face.
Code Word: free
The truth will set you free honey.

donviti wrote on May 23, 2007 10:32 AM:

I bet even Mark Foley would like to get his hands on her...

she is a hottie.

looks like that school teacher in florida (wink wink)

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:33 AM:

Is it just me, or does Monica have vacant eyes? Wonder what drugs she was given to make sure she "can't recall" anything of substance...

PEACE

Posted by: Spencer's Mom

I noticed that too. Bizarre. It is like she has been drugged.

eyeball wrote on May 23, 2007 10:35 AM:

do you guys mind doing a little live-blogging -- i cant get it and i'm bumming big time. thanx.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:37 AM:

Lamar Smith- TRAITOR!

phil wrote on May 23, 2007 10:37 AM:

Smith says the majority knows that Monica never had contact w/rove or meire?

tekel wrote on May 23, 2007 10:37 AM:

You know what I want to see? I want her to try to run, and have Conyers hit her with a Tazer. That would be the best TV evar

phil wrote on May 23, 2007 10:37 AM:

Smith says the majority knows that Monica never had contact w/rove or meire?

TheraP wrote on May 23, 2007 10:38 AM:

Amen, eyeball

I can't get it either.

where wrote on May 23, 2007 10:38 AM:

she looks to me like she's holding back the tears...

Spencer's Mom wrote on May 23, 2007 10:39 AM:

I'm SO glad to hear from Conyers (TX) that there has been no wrong-doing found to date! I guess he's been listening to different testimony!

And by the way, if he's going to use BIG words like "pletora" he should at least know how to pronounce it!

PEACE

code word: fact - will we hear one today?

Spencer's Mom wrote on May 23, 2007 10:39 AM:

I'm SO glad to hear from Conyers (TX) that there has been no wrong-doing found to date! I guess he's been listening to different testimony!

And by the way, if he's going to use BIG words like "plethora" he should at least know how to pronounce it!

PEACE

code word: fact - will we hear one today?

Spencer's Mom wrote on May 23, 2007 10:39 AM:

I'm SO glad to hear from Conyers (TX) that there has been no wrong-doing found to date! I guess he's been listening to different testimony!

And by the way, if he's going to use BIG words like "plethora" he should at least know how to pronounce it!

PEACE

code word: fact - will we hear one today?

hotornot wrote on May 23, 2007 10:40 AM:

SHE SPEAKS!

what a little voice.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:40 AM:

The ranking member (I don't remember his name) just said that the committee has learned Goodling had no contact with Rove or Myers. What the hell is he talking about?

By the way: Her vacant eyes are because she visited Regent University.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:41 AM:

Is it a sin to abuse drugs so that you can convincingly lie in the name of God? Is everything that would otherwise be wrong OK if it is done in the name of God?

Now THAT’s one grant of immunity.

TOS wrote on May 23, 2007 10:42 AM:

Sworn in! This is already better than the Gonzo hearing a few weeks ago!

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:42 AM:

Holy shit- she has the voice of Minnie Mouse. This is the chick who struck terror in the DOJ?! Besides the freaky eyes and lack of lips I don't see what's so scary.

christine wrote on May 23, 2007 10:43 AM:

HOLY SHIT!!!!

ralph489 wrote on May 23, 2007 10:43 AM:

How does she get off taking the Fifth Amendment? She has IMMUNITY!

Spencer's Mom wrote on May 23, 2007 10:43 AM:

Monica pleads the fifth on her FIRST question.

Busta wrote on May 23, 2007 10:44 AM:

Here we go.

Rusty wrote on May 23, 2007 10:44 AM:

Is this just procedure?

hotornot wrote on May 23, 2007 10:44 AM:

hopefully this taking the fifth is just a formality until they get the order in. otherwise, holy crap!

Julie Keller wrote on May 23, 2007 10:45 AM:

Is that Alfred Hitchcock clone dude sitting behind her her attorney?

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 10:45 AM:

"I'm thinking she's gonna do her best to portray herself as a rogue agent and fall on the sword for the administration. She's a "loyal Bushie" and while sane people would be thinking about saving their own asses she might consider herself a hero if she takes the fall for Rove and the White House. I'm no longer expecting much will come of this. Hope I'm wrong.
Code Word: nose
Watch to see if her nose grows while she testifies.

"Posted by:
Date: May 23, 2007 10:07 AM"

I'd rather see discussion of what she says, than see irrelevant speculations.

I have the video -- stop and go -- but not sound.

Odbasta wrote on May 23, 2007 10:46 AM:

That seemed to be procedural, just to get the immunity out of the way.

Texas reader wrote on May 23, 2007 10:46 AM:

Just stopping in briefly, is she crying yet?

security code - doubt, hope she has spent the time since leaving the "justice" dept thinking about what she did and has developed some about the ethics of her boss and her white house buddies.

Aaron G. Stock wrote on May 23, 2007 10:47 AM:

I thought she might do that (take the Fifth). I didn't know how she or anyone advising her thought she could, but I thought she or anyone advising her might be... ignorant (I'm trying to avoid being insulting) enough to try.

jeffgee wrote on May 23, 2007 10:47 AM:

Geez, she looks and sounds like she's about 16.

ohthehugemanatee wrote on May 23, 2007 10:48 AM:

throwing mcnulty to the wolves

Rusty wrote on May 23, 2007 10:48 AM:

Thank goodness, just SOP. So, she's worried about being prosecuted for illegal activity - even though nothing happened. Already fishy. No reason to plead the fifth there.

Mrs Panstreppon wrote on May 23, 2007 10:48 AM:

LOL - McNulty is a liar!

ohthehugemanatee wrote on May 23, 2007 10:48 AM:

throwing mcnulty to the wolves

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 10:49 AM:

Reverend Falwell told me to do it. Now, the Rev. Falwell killed himself and forced me to testify before all you secular, anti-American, homosexual, abortionist, ACLU, devil-worshipers.

And the Rev. Falwell said I was perky, too.

bobh wrote on May 23, 2007 10:49 AM:

well here she goes -

i didnt do it -

sheesh

MBF wrote on May 23, 2007 10:49 AM:

So the plan is to blame McNulty? So she didn't have "conversations" . . . what about emails?

Molly, NYC wrote on May 23, 2007 10:50 AM:

Is it just me, or does Monica have vacant eyes?

Spencer's Mom: She looks scared to death. The statement (which she's reading as I speak, and which I don't fully believe) seems much rehearsed.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:50 AM:

Falling on the sword.

Julie Keller wrote on May 23, 2007 10:50 AM:

Geez, she looks and sounds like she's about 16.
Posted by: jeffgee
Date: May 23, 2007 10:47 AM

Reese Witherspoon in "Legally Blonde." Of course, Witherspoon's character was genuinely charming.

Seitz wrote on May 23, 2007 10:50 AM:

Didn't take her long to start lying.

bobh wrote on May 23, 2007 10:51 AM:

bitch is lying ou ther ass - she was known as a bitch goddess and hired only conservatives

Boop wrote on May 23, 2007 10:51 AM:

I did nothing. I knew nothing.
Sampson did not listen to my recommendations.
The truth is I do not know why they were asked to resign.
Thank goodness for immunity.

Mrs Panstreppon wrote on May 23, 2007 10:51 AM:

Cripes! She doesn't know why the USAs were fired either.

fe wrote on May 23, 2007 10:52 AM:

Reverend Falwell said if I slept with him, I'd get a job in D.C., an annual salary of a million dollars, my own federal judgeship, bank accounts in the Cayman Islands and British Channel Islands, and a spot in the kingdom of heaven after the rapture.

And Rev. Falwell said I was perky, too.

Rusty wrote on May 23, 2007 10:52 AM:

I hope the Dems are packing some ammo based on her emails. If they are not well prepped, this opener is going to make them look aweful... especially when the toadies start going "Monica, how has this investigation hurt your private life... "

I hope they hit her hard.

boat wrote on May 23, 2007 10:52 AM:

I don't know, did not make decisions, I think everyone has heard this stuff before.

anon wrote on May 23, 2007 10:52 AM:

does anyone have the time to link to emails/docs that contradict her in real time? she threw mcnulty under the bus

hotornot wrote on May 23, 2007 10:53 AM:

Her written opening remarks address 4 points:

1. McNulty - screw you!
2. White House? What's the White House?
3. I didn't write the list, I only took people off it. I don't know why anyone was put on it.
4. Yes, I asked about political leanings in interviews. My bad!

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:53 AM:

This is gonna amount to a whole lot of nothing. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

Aaron G. Stock wrote on May 23, 2007 10:53 AM:

OK, check, on the Fifth/immunity dance.

Steve5117 wrote on May 23, 2007 10:53 AM:

What a crock of shit!!

Mark Richards wrote on May 23, 2007 10:53 AM:

Why do these mal-administration types have whiny voices? Gonzales: prissy, whiny voice. Bush: pennultimate whiner. And this one - "good" ling, a whining, irritating, blathering airhead.

Maybe the reason is simple: make them awful to listen to so we won't make them testify.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 10:55 AM:

And before he killed himself, Rev. Falwell told me to make sure I worked a pitch for Liberty University into my pre-testimony speech.

Rev. Falwell said his children will give me a 10-percent commission for every new student who enrolls at Liberty in the wake of my testimony and mentions my name in the process.

Praise the Lard, Rev. Falwell.

apeman wrote on May 23, 2007 10:55 AM:

the radio feed in dc has stopped c span 90.1

Vulture Breath wrote on May 23, 2007 10:55 AM:

Kyle Sampson said he was an aggregator. Monica is saying he was a compiler. Which is it?

boop wrote on May 23, 2007 10:56 AM:

I don't know is the new I don't recall.

Busta wrote on May 23, 2007 10:56 AM:

Here we go.

green heron wrote on May 23, 2007 10:57 AM:

Ms. Goodling, granted immunity, will now lie under oath. This is going nowhere.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 10:57 AM:

Before he killed himself, Rev. Falwell said nobody would believe the White House was dumb enough to put a perky blond from a fourth-rate law school in charge of hiring and firing U.S. attorneys.

Of course, I, Monica, reminded him that the White House, with the held of Kate O'Beirne's husband, gave Simone Ledeen, a cooking school graduate, the keys to the money box in Baghdad. Now, billions are missing and Simone's working for Blackrock and Carlyle.

Busta wrote on May 23, 2007 10:58 AM:

Here we go.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:59 AM:

I "feel like he did" but I don't recall.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:59 AM:

So young to have such a poor memory. Sad really.

TOS wrote on May 23, 2007 10:59 AM:

Monica doesn't know anything, and Conyers doesn't know how to ask questions. You're right...this will probably amount to nothing....it may mean that this scandal is over. So much for the "keys to the kingdom".

Steve5117 wrote on May 23, 2007 10:59 AM:

Too many ums, should have been a Toastmaster.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 10:59 AM:

There goes Dowd's bar license . . .

some dude named steevo wrote on May 23, 2007 10:59 AM:

She doesn't know who Karl Rove is? To quote the movies, "someone got to her." She sounds scared and her testimony sounds coached. She has had a few freudian slips already.

Bush is just trying to run out the clock.

Mrs Panstreppon wrote on May 23, 2007 11:00 AM:

Back to you, Kyle Sampson.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:00 AM:

Ms. Goodling,

Don't use the term "laid out."

Everyone knows how you got your Justice Department gig:

Like every other good Ralph Reed-Newt Gingrich follower, on your back and on your knees.

Odbasta wrote on May 23, 2007 11:00 AM:

Ok, so why exactly did she plead the fifth? She's just playing the I don't recall card too.

If she's getting immunity, she should at least recognize that she's done something illegal, right?!

Vulture Breath wrote on May 23, 2007 11:01 AM:

We need to give Sheldon Whitehouse a crack at Monica.

milton wiltmellow wrote on May 23, 2007 11:01 AM:

It looks like she's fingering Sampson as the evil mastermind behind the USA firings.

She places Gonzales right in the middle of it.

She claims no prior contact with Rove or Meirs about the list of firings.

phil wrote on May 23, 2007 11:03 AM:

once again we see that party and ideology go before country and honor. Another Linda Tripp.

Steve5117 wrote on May 23, 2007 11:03 AM:

She said she was never in a room with Rove when this topic was discussed. When she was in a room with Rove, WHAT TOPICS were being discussed?

phil wrote on May 23, 2007 11:03 AM:

once again we see that party and ideology go before country and honor. Another Linda Tripp.

Rusty wrote on May 23, 2007 11:03 AM:

I don't want to make any predictions about this hearing - but I get the sense from the opening that it may do much more damage to the Dems that resolve any issues related to the scandal. I hope someone on this committee has been studying the emails with her address on them closely... or at least ask her questions about why she cannot produce her emails if nothing happened. Otherwise, this may well go down in flames.

Sanchez up next - fingers crossed.

Michael wrote on May 23, 2007 11:04 AM:

Not another Monica...

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:04 AM:

"There goes Dowd's bar license . . ."

LOL- There will be no consequences for anyone. That much is clear.

milton wiltmellow wrote on May 23, 2007 11:04 AM:

Make that McNulty rather than Sampson.

Seitz wrote on May 23, 2007 11:05 AM:

"I may forget stuff and leave stuff out, but it won't be on purpose. Testerfyin' is hard work!"

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:05 AM:

So this is funny, I can't tell what she thinks she needed immunity for.

She was just asked directly by the ranking member whether she had ever used political bias in her decision making - answer: no.

Leaves me breathless

TheraP wrote on May 23, 2007 11:06 AM:

never in a room with rove - what about phone? email?

60th Street wrote on May 23, 2007 11:06 AM:

Well, I can certainly say this is going just as expected. Short of the Democrats having smart chess moves for Goodling today, we can expect a lot of "I don't knows" and "I was just a lowly plebe"

But, the pattern seems to be to slide the pea under another shell...so far, McNulty's and Sampson's, SO, I would assume the smart play would be that once they all get finished not knowing who did what and when and why and pointing vague fingers at each other, that Conyers would now have to get them all under one roof and regrill them on the same shit.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:06 AM:

she's been proping for months thats why she took the 5th so she could prep, this is sad

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:07 AM:

She can't shut up. She's going to trip up big time.

G4AM wrote on May 23, 2007 11:08 AM:

Could we just get to her testimony about who she went to see when she got "business calls" from the DC Madam?

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:08 AM:

Perhaps someone should ask her why she needed immunity since she also suffers from Administrative Amnesia.

pkj wrote on May 23, 2007 11:09 AM:

Would everyone having sexual fantasies about her and Falwell/Rove/Bush/etc. please go masturbate somewhere else. This country would be in much better shape if that *were* the problem. it's not.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:09 AM:

This woman's primary qualification seems to be the ability to speak faster than the micro-machine man...

sailor wrote on May 23, 2007 11:09 AM:

Maybe she is Gordon Liddy's secret daughter!

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:10 AM:

Perhaps someone should ask her why she needed immunity since she also suffers from Administrative Amnesia.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:10 AM:

Good gravy, could she slow down just a bit? Her words a flying out of her mouth at a million miles an hour.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:11 AM:

Sanchez isn't familiar with the term "caging"?! Where the hell has she been.

Spencer's Mom wrote on May 23, 2007 11:12 AM:

So if she knew nothing, compiled nothing, wasn't in meetings where anything was discussed and DID NOTHING WRONG, WHY did she immediately take the 5th back in March????

I hope the Dems show some teeth, because right now it looks like a circle-jerk of Repubs praising Monica, and her dow-eyed acceptance of the that praise!

PEACE

bobh wrote on May 23, 2007 11:12 AM:

murtha really got under their skin the little babies

Vulture Breath wrote on May 23, 2007 11:13 AM:

OMG, Cannon is filibustering by reading an LA Times article about Murtha. Fucking idiot. Seriously, WTF.

PJ White wrote on May 23, 2007 11:13 AM:

Why is Cannon making this attack on Murtha in this session? WTF? Ridiculous.

boop wrote on May 23, 2007 11:14 AM:

What the ??

Cannon is reading a newspaper story regarding Murtha.

Passing Shot wrote on May 23, 2007 11:14 AM:

This is a waste of time. Conyers and the Democrats are embarassing themselves, and the Republicans are now hijacking the hearing. If Conyers is smart, he'll adjourn this early.

PJ White wrote on May 23, 2007 11:14 AM:

Why is Cannon making this attack on Murtha in this session? WTF? Ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:14 AM:

Good gravy, could she slow down just a bit? Her words a flying out of her mouth at a million miles an hour.
Posted by:
Date: May 23, 2007 11:10 AM

This is good. The Republican is reading from a newspaper just to shut her up.

Pete wrote on May 23, 2007 11:15 AM:

Cannon is a real tool.

jeffgee wrote on May 23, 2007 11:16 AM:

Now Chris Cannon is using the whole thing to grandstand about Murtha and Pelosi and other Democrats.Completely off-topic.
What a jackass.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:16 AM:

ME, ME , ME, ME.

Mikey Rivers wrote on May 23, 2007 11:17 AM:

I'm creeped out by the sexism that Goodling's testimony has brought out on this comment board. I know that anti-women attitudes don't follow the typical ideological boundaries, but this is still disappointing. Real progressive, all the remarks about her hair and possible future work as an escort. Yikes.

Passing Shot wrote on May 23, 2007 11:18 AM:

This is a waste of time. Conyers and the Democrats are embarassing themselves, and the Republicans are now hijacking the hearing. If Conyers is smart, he'll adjourn this early.

biltud wrote on May 23, 2007 11:18 AM:

"We do what we're told..."

ralph489 wrote on May 23, 2007 11:19 AM:

I love that she said that she didn't have the power, despite the document showing that the AG gave her inordinate powers (and wasn't she #3 anyway?). And further, how does the White House liaison get any foreknowledge of the firings.

katandmoon wrote on May 23, 2007 11:20 AM:

GO, Rep. Chavez!

PJ White wrote on May 23, 2007 11:20 AM:

Linda Sanchez has the only brain on this committee! Cannon is just riding herd on her and Conyers must have Alzheimers.

Justin wrote on May 23, 2007 11:21 AM:

OMG it's Donatella Moss!!!!

Vulture Breath wrote on May 23, 2007 11:22 AM:

Maybe Sensenbrenner would like to read some John Grisham or "DaVinci Code" into the record.

ralph489 wrote on May 23, 2007 11:22 AM:

I love that she said that she didn't have the power, despite the document showing that the AG gave her inordinate powers (and wasn't she #3 anyway?). And further, how does the White House liaison get any foreknowledge of the firings.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:24 AM:

Smart Q: Ms. Goodling, how many felony cases have you prosecuted in your legal career?

Smart Q: Ms. Goodling, how many misdemeanor cases have you prosecuted in your legal career?

Smart Q: Ms. Goodling, how many federal cases have you played any role in prosecuting in your legal career?

Smart Q: Ms. Goodling, have you ever prosecuted a case in your legal career?

Smart Q: Ms. Goodling, you invoked the Fifth and Sixth amendments to the U.S. Constitution prior to your testimony. First, can you identify the content of these amendments?

Smart Q: Ms. Goodling, since the Fifth Amendment involves self-incrimination and since you have thus far offered no answer that indicates any criminal activity, much less anything other than boilerplate Conservative talking points, will you please explain the legal basis behind your decision to invoke this amendment?

jeffgee wrote on May 23, 2007 11:24 AM:

Kongressman Kotex Sensenbrenner up. Leading questions to help her exonerate herself and the rest of the hijackers of the Constitution. Bitching and moaning about the cost of the investigation. Onion-worthy.

Oskie wrote on May 23, 2007 11:25 AM:

I didn’t think it was possible for me to think less of Republicans, but these apologists are doing the trick.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:27 AM:

Thank you, Mr. Nadler.

Hey, Marshall, check with your IT group. The upload on this website of yours takes DAYS.

Someone stuck you with a lousy system, Marshall.

biltud wrote on May 23, 2007 11:28 AM:

"We do what we're told..."

Rebel wrote on May 23, 2007 11:28 AM:

Famous words from Monica, "But I want to be honest."

roflmao

Xman wrote on May 23, 2007 11:29 AM:

"I'm creeped out by the sexism that Goodling's testimony has brought out on this comment board"

Sorry mikey, it's a losing battle to fight nature.
Men are men and always will be. Better get used to it.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:30 AM:

"She had a lot of experience," whereas I couldn't find a courtroom with Rev. Falwell guiding me.

Marshall, contact IT. Not even Sick Willie Kristol is this psycho about his system. And Sick Willie has bomb-sniffing dogs go through Weekly Standard offices every morning, an offshoot of his days employing John Podhoretz.

SLOW. SLOWER. SLOWEST. Call IT. ASAP.

G wrote on May 23, 2007 11:32 AM:

Conyers just cut off the best line of questioning from Nadler!! He could have given him more time....JEEZ.

SamSara wrote on May 23, 2007 11:34 AM:

Legally blond.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:35 AM:

"...basic liaison function that related to information."

Why, Monica? You've just spent the last hour telling us you don't know a damn thing.

Either the White House is filled with idiots (see Ledeen, Simone) or you are lying through your teeth.

Fermi wrote on May 23, 2007 11:35 AM:

To the tune of Meth and Man Ass

They were Servin' at the Plezzur,
Of the Prez-eeeeeeeeeeee-dent!

jeffgee wrote on May 23, 2007 11:36 AM:

Conyers' bumbling is not helping.

Gary in Wash State wrote on May 23, 2007 11:37 AM:

Unfortunately a lot of Sound and Fury signifing NOTHING...Conners has lost his ability to lead this Cmte...his time has passed and WE are the worse for it. A signigicent lost opportunity.

Pete wrote on May 23, 2007 11:38 AM:

"I don't believe I intended to commit a crime." Wow! Quite a statement coming from a top official from the Justice Department.

boop wrote on May 23, 2007 11:39 AM:

I crossed the lines (Rules? Laws?)

...but but I didn't mean to

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:39 AM:

Bobby,

You fool. STOP WITH THE SPEECH and ask meaningful questions.

The criminal from Utah already ran out the clock. Why are you helping him, Bobby?

Bobby's going to ask a couple of questions. It's a MIRACLE!

"What do you believe?"

Monica: "I believe in the Lord God Falwell."

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:39 AM:

She just admitted to violating civil service laws... Bobby Scott, you are my hero

Tortoise wrote on May 23, 2007 11:41 AM:

Amphetamine I suspect. (Prescription, of course.)

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 11:41 AM:

She admitted violating the law. And, despite her week effort to dance, she admitted she knew she did so at the time. Even though she didn't "intend" to do so.

Of course she intended to do so: she knew she was doing it at the time she did it, and went ahead and did it.

All in all, the difficulty dealing with her is the "Hear, see, say no evil" attitude. But that's easily cracked, as the admission extracted indicates. A few more of those, and she'll be too anxious to try to be non-judgmental.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:43 AM:

"I'm creeped out by the sexism that Goodling's testimony has brought out on this comment board"

After all, a D.C. political boss taught America about the value of sexism and sexual hypocrisy in politics.

Newt Gingrich.

Willem van Oranje wrote on May 23, 2007 11:45 AM:

On a few questions, she answers with "I believe I have some press accounts". This doesn't answer the question "when" she was aware of some of the facts, she could be aware of it before the press learned about it.

val wrote on May 23, 2007 11:46 AM:

Think this sums up her position in the entire fiasco...

"Yes." *cogs spin in brain* "Er, what did I just agree to?"

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:47 AM:

"They didn't want to make the departures more painful."

Monica,

The Conservative Party of Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Cheney, Alberto, Scalia, and Rove is all about pain or, to be more specific, alternative interrogation techniques.

Don't expect anyone to believe that the Conservatives of Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Cheney, Alberto, Scalia, and Rove have the slightest bit of compassion.

Your leaders, Timmy Griff and Ralphy Reed, taught you that this is war.

"I know why, I know why, I think I know why."

So far, Monica, you don't know anything. Not even why you invoked the Fifth.

Sure do make 'em stupid at Liberty U.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 11:49 AM:

"I don't believe I committed a crime."

Monica, don't they teach the definition of crime at Liberty U. Law School?

Or is crime known, instead, as the Lord Falwell's work?

BobKC wrote on May 23, 2007 11:51 AM:

It's not Jerry Falwell she is tied to but
PAT ROBINSON of the "700 club" and runs Regent
"University"

I can't get the live feed either, so I'm depending on y'all to keep me posted. So far, it
looks good for the Bushies. The Bush dictatorship is consolidating it's power. No-one
will do time for any of this.

It's disgusting to see how little regard the president has for Congress. Maybe if they weren't so crooked and a bunch of liars, Congress would get more respect.
SC:muscle

Arizonista wrote on May 23, 2007 11:56 AM:

She was the DOJ liaison to the White House. What were her contacts with Rove's staff and Meir's staff? Why aren't the obvious questions beings asked? The Dems are collapsing on all fronts...

Mikey Rivers wrote on May 23, 2007 11:58 AM:

Hey Ferher:

"Looks like she got a makeover. How sweet. I wanna see this bitch wither.
Code Word: public
Public humiliation."

What on earth does this have to do with Newt Gingrich?

it's just crummy sexism (and believe it or not, it's appearing on one of OUR progressive boards). Call it what it isn't and don't make exuses.

Mikey Rivers wrote on May 23, 2007 12:01 PM:

Ferher writes:

"Ms. Goodling, Don't use the term 'laid out.'

Everyone knows how you got your Justice Department gig:

Like every other good Ralph Reed-Newt Gingrich follower, on your back and on your knees."

Ferher, my friend, you have some issues with women. Git help

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 12:02 PM:

She's substantiating that the hiring was politically motivated. And the emails show blatant political considerations.

And she admits having violated the law in so doing.

The Democrats have it right; and this issue, and the larger issue, are not going away.

Staff will, of course, compare all her testimony to the hard evidence they have. She had better not have contraidcted herself -- or lied against her own emails.

Give her credit for not being a pro at testifying in adversarial situations.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 12:03 PM:

Bob- It is going very, very well for the WH. There is no difference at all between predictions of her testimony and the actual testimony.

It is genuinely disgusting that the Republicans are fine with the corruption of the DOJ, I guess they’re sure it protects them.

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 12:08 PM:

Her admissions -- and additions to -- the political litmus test are exceedingly useful to the process.

Doubtless many would have expected to deny that fact, even in view of the emails showing otherwise. Get her tired, and bored, and push her, and she'll spill even more beans. She is generally honest, but she tends not to see, hear, or say "evil" about others; that needs to be wacked over the head so it ceases. The quetions about her invoking the 5th rattled her -- after which came the admission that she "crossed the line"/knowingly violated the law.

Bobmshells are useful; but the dvil tends to be in the details, often those being the least consequential-appearing.

There'll be more repercussions out of her testimony. Especially if she's throwing such as McNulty and or Sampson under the bus -- by telling the truth.

val wrote on May 23, 2007 12:10 PM:

Yo Mikey,

Maybe sexism comes into play when people start raising eyebrows about how such an obviously young and inexperienced *cough* blonde gets such a job with such responsibilities.

Honestly, what makes her qualified to hire and fire people...She hired people at college? You're having a laugh. She seems like nothing more than a glorified secretary who's obviously been winking at the right people. No wonder the woman who had trial experience 'who she'd hoped to learn from' had a bee in her bonnet for Miss. Goodling. She was probably thinking the same thing we are. 'How the f*** is she the liason between the White House and the DoJ?'

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The Weekly Standard reported in October 2005 that From Think Progree:

Alberto Gonzales instituted the White House Judicial Selection Committee in the first weeks of the administration. Harriet Miers chaired the meetings once Gonzales left for the Department of Justice. Karl Rove is a member of the committee.

UPDATE: Also in her opening statement, Goodling described how she was told not to show her face before congressional investigators because “if someone recognized me as the White House liaison, the members would be more likely to ask questions about the White House.”

Arizonista wrote on May 23, 2007 12:15 PM:

"Staff will, of course, compare all her testimony to the hard evidence they have. She had better not have contraidcted herself -- or lied against her own emails."

Is the point here to nail her for perjury on a few narrow issues of hiring protocol or to discover the role of the White House in using the DOJ for voter suppression and obstruction of justice. Why bother to give her immunity?

No wonder the GOP members are mocking this...

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 12:18 PM:

The sexism -- which is in fact a two-way street: men see women as sex objects; women evaluate men as success objects/wallets -- and expressions of it are irrelevant, therefore juvenile. About as mature as the jock/locker-room sniggering level of comentary we get from too many "professional" "journalists".

One would get more out of the testimony if one actually listened, and critically evaluated, instead of taking cheap-shots based upon childish locker-room stupidities.

Or perhaps one prefers such anti-intellectualism to the risk of actually learning something of value.

SC = waste. As in, 'Nuff said.

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I love it when Repulicans ask questions:

(R): Are you bad?

Witness: No, sir.

(R): Okay... I'm satisfied.

Xman wrote on May 23, 2007 12:21 PM:

Geez! As easy as it would appear to bring her to a tearful breakdown and thus start getting some real damning info, it looks like the Dem's are afraid to look like they are beating up on Bambi.

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 12:25 PM:

See the following for contrasts with her apparent inability to see "evil" as being that. Not a "dishonest" inability; a warped inability --

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052201601.html?nav=hcmodule

SC = flag. As in, see above.

Arizonista wrote on May 23, 2007 12:26 PM:

Who ordered the redaction of e-mails? Can you recall the content of any redacted e-mails? Did you ever see any e-mails from Karl Rove or members of his staff? Meirs ditto? Did anyone ever order the destruction of memos or e-mails?

What discussions were held with Sampson, McNulty or Gonzalez about the wishes of the president, Karl Rove or H. Meirs about the prosecutions of Carl Lam and Paul Charlton (etc.)

Why are the Dems confining themselves to inane lines of questioning?

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 12:27 PM:

Sheila Jackson Lee's questions are from the above article. Lee's ain't wastin' no time with chit-chat!

Mikey Rivers wrote on May 23, 2007 12:38 PM:

Val and Ferher, here's a couple of really great books to check out:

Bourdieu's "Masculine Domination" and Dworkin's "Woman Hating."

I know that it stinks when we look in the progressive mirror and still see sexism. We want to be better than that. We hope that those who agree with us that Bush and Company are mendacious criminals ALSO hold feminist principles near and dear to their hearts.

When they do, it's beautiful.

When they don't, it's important to speak up and not make excuses for the.

jeffgee wrote on May 23, 2007 12:38 PM:

She got the job because she's a true believer, a true Bushie. She started on oppo research, aka dirty tricks. She was chosen because she is the next generation of Rovism.
I doubt she was providing sexual favors. Serving at the "pleasure of the President" means doing anything to help the GOP win, not what the other Monica did. Goodling goes on her knees for Jesus, not Bush.
It's too bad she's been sexualized here on the forum. Her prudiness makes her a target but we don't elevate the argument by assuming sexual favors got her hired at the DOJ. True rightwing ideology, GOP loyalty and Christian soldierhood was the ticket.
By the way, this item from TPM earlier today won't come out in the hearing: she refused to attend a colleague's baby shower because the mother was unwed. Just what Jesus would do, right?

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 1:04 PM:

""Staff will, of course, compare all her testimony to the hard evidence they have. She had better not have contraidcted herself -- or lied against her own emails.""

"Is the point here to nail her for perjury on a few narrow issues of hiring protocol or to discover the role of the White House in using the DOJ for voter suppression and obstruction of justice. Why bother to give her immunity?"

Let's overlook her admission that she violated the law by taking politics into consideration -- which is the core issue?

"No wonder the GOP members are mocking this...

"Posted by: Arizonista
Date: May 23, 2007 12:15 PM"

The Republican'ts job isn't surprising: to give answers andtead of getting them. To talk about anything but the issues. That is not the entire effort -- correct?

It is established by her admission that politics were a litmus test, even though it was illegal. (Issa's BS assertion notwithstanding.) That will be compared and contrasted with all other testimony, and documentation, given to the Committee. If she is busted for perjury, then that will be a violation of her agreement re. limited dimmunity.

All of tht keeps the issue alive, and front and center -- and I recommend reading the article on which Lee based her initial questions.

The relevant issue as concerns oversight by the Committee is law, not politics. You are only talking opposing politics.

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ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 1:28 PM:

mikey and jnag,

Uncle Newt taught Conservatives nationwide how to lead a witch hunt for adultery while at the same time committing adultery in his own life.

For more on Conservative Pols Who Love Adultery, see Giuliani, Rudi - the only mayor in New York City history ever to get slapped with a temporary restraining order (that's a legal action) by the current Missus for playing footsie with the future Missus on the grounds with his son and daughter in the building.

Adultery, that's a sin. Jut ask Rev. Pat and Rev. James.

JNagarya wrote on May 23, 2007 2:05 PM:

"mikey and jnag,

"Uncle Newt taught Conservatives nationwide how to lead a witch hunt for adultery while at the same time committing adultery in his own life.

"For more on Conservative Pols Who Love Adultery, see Giuliani, Rudi - the only mayor in New York City history ever to get slapped with a temporary restraining order (that's a legal action) by the current Missus for playing footsie with the future Missus on the grounds with his son and daughter in the building.

"Adultery, that's a sin. Jut ask Rev. Pat and Rev. James.

"Posted by: ferher
Date: May 23, 2007 01:28 PM"

I have no idea the point of the foregoing. I'm a legal professional, thus my focus on the relevant: the rule of law.

If the juvenile sexist jocks don't like it, then they can take their tripe to where it's on topic. I suggest Free Republic, as they also fail to distinguish between politics and law.

jeffgee wrote on May 23, 2007 2:19 PM:

Randy Forbes (R-VA) plays the persecuted Christian card and praises Regent University. Typical. He is grandstanding. Where's the question, Randy? There is no question. He's the squid inking up the water.
No Republican has had anything useful to add to these hearings. They are playing defense for the indefensible.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 2:24 PM:

JNag,

So you believe adultery is not a sin?

You believe Papa Newt is not a hypocrite?

You don't know what a temporary restraining order is?

Interesting, predictable, but interesting.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 2:27 PM:

Who cares if there are $5 million worth of camera lens, Jack Bauer, Osama bin Laden, Rev. Falwell, Mother Teresa, and the Rapture in front of her?

Tell the truth.

She's a perky girl who can clearly follow instructions. Now, she's being instructed to tell the truth.

So, Monica, dearest, tell the truth.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 2:28 PM:

Iowa,

Isn't honesty a religious principle?

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 2:31 PM:

"I have no idea the point of the foregoing. I'm a legal professional, thus my focus on the relevant: the rule of law."

JNag,

You're a legal professional who cannot define a temporary restraining order.

Betcha graduated at the top of your Regent law class.

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 2:33 PM:

Jnag,

As a lawyer, you cannot define a temporary restraining order.

So, you must practice Biblical law rather than your basic, run-of-the-mill law of our nation.

Do you base your Biblical law practice on the Old Testament or the New Testament?

ferher wrote on May 23, 2007 2:42 PM:

Rep. Feeney,

Does he plan to question Ms. Monica or is he looking for a date?

Jeepers, Feeney, next time wear a bib. Your panting over the young blond Conservative is disgusting.

Bucketochicken wrote on May 23, 2007 2:56 PM:

Has every single GOP committee member brought up the Clinton administration? They're as obsessed with him as they are with Reagan... WTF?

Mikey Rivers wrote on May 23, 2007 2:56 PM:

Wow.

Gohmert just warned his fellow committee members to "watch what they say" about Christians, lest they be charged under the hate crimes act for inciting violence.

jeffgee wrote on May 23, 2007 3:05 PM:

Gohmert equates Harvard with Regent. Harvard was founded as a religious school in 1639, when most schools were church oriented. Regent was founded in 1977 with a clear religious mission above all else.
Another persecuted republican christian.
The GOP is a broken record. They can only whine about how unfair the investigations are. Of course, every one of their 1,000 investigations into Bill Clinton was justified. No fishing expeditions there. If they had kept their majority in 2006, they would be planning "vote fraud" cases with loyal Bushie US Attorneys in critical regions for 2008. All for Rove's Reich, the 30+ year GOP reign.
They can't win fair, so they find every way possible to cheat and rig the game.

Mikey Rivers wrote on May 23, 2007 3:16 PM:

WOW!! Now we're getting somewhere!

If you stopped watching, turn it back on.

it's been a long slog, but both Lungren and Goodling are now startled. "I need to consult with my attorney..."

THANK YOU, MEMBER FROM ALABAMA! We need more committee members like you.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 3:29 PM:

Artur Davis is getting, at long last, to the meat of the matter:

Did Gonzales state his "memory" out loud in his last meeting with Goodling, in order to try to "get her story straight"?

This is from her non-public testimony to the committee and goes right to the question of obstruction of justice.

When you start making even true believers like Goodling "uncomfortable" with your ham-fisted attempts to get everyone's story straight, you have really messed up.

Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2007 11:47 PM:

I hate to say it, but with today's bungling by Conyers -- in not asking some basic questions which TPM have well pointed to -- I hate to think of the fiasco during impeachment.

I'm for impeachment: I'm not for a bungled job by Conyers in screwing it us, as he's well demonstrated he's most likely to do.

Monica is small potatoes: Not only would CONyers have to lead the investigation and public review; he'd have to lead the presentment of evidence to the Senate.

[Rolling eyes]. The Congress needs some help in conducting oversight, getting their basic questions in line, and preparing the Committee Members of COngress to conduct these interviews/public hearings.

Any thoughts to having some dry runs with mock witnesses before the hearings; and a chance for the MEmbers of Congress to conduct some dry runs, with some feedaback? I would encourage the DNC leadership to review their options, and take advice from the legal teams who do mock jury interviews; and mock trials to prepare attorneys and witnesses.

This is fair warning that if more DOJ Staff counsel are going to be asked questions -- as they should be -- then the time to get these kinks out of the Committee review process is now; if it works, they'll be ready to dive into some more complicated handwaving from the White House.

Anyone else have any suggestions on getting the Congressional Committees up to speed, and learning from the apparent errors/oversights problems we saw today? There needs to be some sort of [kindly worded] advisory position with some recommendations presented to the House and SEnate Judiciary Chairmen. As experiencedd attorneys as they are, they are coming across a little rusty.

sc: Sheep, "The Sheep have spoken, and it's not the food they're complaining about, Monica -- they'd rather be around a real shepperd like Jesus."

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