Comments (90)

Dee Illuminati wrote on July 30, 2007 9:53 AM:

What credibility problem? He has no credibility so how can credibility be a problem? His lack of credibility is the correct wording.

I have seen five year olds witch cookies and cake on their face sound more credible that Alberto, I want to see John Stuart run with that.

Baghdad Bob and Alberto are now in the same deck of cards.

moondancer wrote on July 30, 2007 9:57 AM:

....strategic ploy...overwhelmed...
Both apply to fredo. He as one: fully engaged in obstruction on behalf of his patron(s), and two: without leadership skills or comprehension of the job he holds.

I think he was well suited for counsel to shrub. They deserved each other, but he's ruinous to the country as AG.
Its astounding to me that he would prostitute himself to this degree. Even the most callow whore of an attorney would probably have cried uncle and resigned by now.

Official A wrote on July 30, 2007 9:59 AM:

It is simply unbelievable that the press would seriously weigh these alternatives. The man is a liar, and it doesn't take psychoanalyisis to figure that out. However, talk therapy might be useful in determining why nobody is doing anything about it.

Richard McLamore wrote on July 30, 2007 10:05 AM:

Baghdad Bob meet Beltway Bert (although he really looks more like Ernie . . .)

tbhull wrote on July 30, 2007 10:06 AM:

Why waste any more unnecessary Congressional efforts on this corrupt sycohant. Impeach. And for any of this idiots it Congress that may think this clown serves at the pleasure of the pres and cannot be impeached, you are wrong.

Joe wrote on July 30, 2007 10:08 AM:

I was thinking more like Tony Snowjob, aka Baghdad Bob.

* wrote on July 30, 2007 10:10 AM:

Dear lord please impeach him now. What's the holdup?

PR wrote on July 30, 2007 10:10 AM:

Hey moondancer; 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad reputation.

Amos Rutledge wrote on July 30, 2007 10:20 AM:

The fish are biting, Fredo. Get into the boat!

c4logic wrote on July 30, 2007 10:23 AM:

This is one of those situations where, if you read this in a novel, it would be obvious to every reader what game AG is playing. Is it too much of a coincidence that AG never admits to anything that could be remotely damaging to the political interests of the administration? It is the same pattern all over with respect to keeping secret things that have no relevance to national security, or squashing analysis and reports that conflict with their apriori policy objectives. Anybody who argues in defense of this is engaging in pretense. This is indefensible, and WE ALL KNOW IT.

corpus juris wrote on July 30, 2007 10:26 AM:

The thing that you have to keep in mind about Alberto is in his mind he is nothing without the Bush family in general and George in particular.

Most people who attain cabinet rank are strong willed, independent thinkers. They believe they have a reputation that will survive the moment. They are willing to defend that personal reputation when their opinion conflicts with the demands of their boss. They are independent actors.

Fredo isn't an independent actor. Because he views himself as one, he is a loyal family servant, nothing more.

rxbusa wrote on July 30, 2007 10:26 AM:

the holdup is that W is waiting for the recess to let Gonzales resign...to spend more time with his family or something. And then make a recess appointment. The problem is that these guys always have someone worse waiting in the wings. How about John Yoo as AG?

Hopefully, Harry Reid will not let the Senate recess.

TheraP wrote on July 30, 2007 10:29 AM:

Do you think these guys like Gonzo-Lies simply enjoy toying with the truth, toying with people trying to get the truth, playing with them like a cat plays with a mouse?

Sure the game is lost for them. But they must enjoy this in some perverse fashion. It's sick!

draftedin68 wrote on July 30, 2007 10:41 AM:

.

Here's an idea:

Take a transcript of AG-AG's testimony and diguise it enough to make it look like it's from an "ordinary" suspect.

Then, run it by a dozen or so veteran police dectectives.

Betcha they agree he's guilty as sin.

And, a lying sonofabitch at that.

.

moondancer wrote on July 30, 2007 10:48 AM:

Two points, one, no recess appointments. Dems are keeping sessions open so he cant do that.
Next, this is no game for them. I think the extent of their malfeasance is so great that they are in desperation mode. This is a desperate defense by guys that are not as smart as they think they are, counseled by more of the same. They are one phrase, under oath by somebody from having their house collapse.
I dont think many realise how dangerous WH position is, which makes them very dangerous in kind.
While I appreciate the image, TheraP, this is bloodsport, not toying. They are fighting for their collective political lives

Steve5117 wrote on July 30, 2007 10:53 AM:

TheraP

Remember the New Coke debacle? Coca Cola Coompany's "experts" sold the decision makers on the need to make a preemptive introduction of a new product that was a total failure?

I don't know whose math the administration is using to do any cost/benifit analysis on our operations in Iraq or who is interpreting the figures, but they have sure forgotten the political loss that comes trying to defend a poor policy product.

hquain wrote on July 30, 2007 10:54 AM:

Liar? Parser? Amnesiac? Idiot? These alternatives are not exclusive.

A liar has to make use of the materials at hand, and weave the lies in among truths and a recognizable story line that he's comfortable with. I vote for all four.

db wrote on July 30, 2007 10:57 AM:

What would the press and D.C. pundits like Kookie Roberts be saying if he was a democrat named Janet Reno who had these same propensities to always screw up in a way that protected a democratic president from serious charges of criminal conduct?

The corrupt press and media make me want to vomit on a daily basis...going on eight years now.

DickTater wrote on July 30, 2007 10:58 AM:

Let's please stop gilding the lily, or lipsticking the pig, or beating around the bush.

AG AG is a criminal. Pure and simple. And much like a Mafia Don, LeChimp and TheCheney can keep themselves relatively CLEAN while their minions do the dirty work. Real dirty work. AG AG is no different (and really much worse) than any murdering WiseGuy or Mafia Lawyer.

His whole reason for being is not Rule of Law or even LipService to the Rule of Law. His reason for being is to UNDERMINE the Rule of Law. It is to find every Hole, every LoopHole, every Delaying Tactic, to do the bidding of his masters.

TheCheney is one of the most litigious bastards ever. I read, or heard somewhere.....just as the Chimp/Cheney admin was getting started....they went after Tort Reform. Now of course, this was a twisted way to basically NEUTER the common man in the courts and strengthen the hand of large corporations. At the time, I heard TheCheney was a world leader in Court Cases. He had been at the receiving end of litigation approx. 100 times and on the OFFENSE of litigation approx 400 times. If you watch how he operates, how he parses language, how he is surrounded by legal staff at all times, and how he has run this govt...it is not hard to understand or recognize. He knows, more than anyone else, that Big Business is about litigation. Successfully defending, delaying, obfuscating when you are on the ropes. Pushing for what you want and legally stomping on the necks of those in your way when on the offense. He doesn't physically bully people. He doesn't send goons to your front porch. He works the phones, works his network, works the courts, works his lawyers.

He is the Loophole King. Finder of Dark Cracks.
Now, what could be more of a 365 day Christmas for TheCheney? How about the top legal teams in the nation, a supreme court he helped build, and the Top Cop/AG AG in your pocket?

Back to AG AG....he has no memory problems. We are ALL missing the point. And as this article says at the beginning....legal minds and pundits and journalists are in a raging debate over whether AG AG has memory problems or isn't up to the job? C'mon. His JOB isn't what you think it is. He is doing a BANG-UP job of perverting justice, stonewalling, running interference, and enabling his ole buddy. The only reason he hasn't been swept out of town is LeChimp and TheCheney cannot live without him. They have crimes and skeletons in their closets a mile deep. NO-ONE else is going to be able to keep a lid on that. AG AG is the only POSSIBLE hole card they have. It would take an act of God to move him. It is their WORST nightmare. They could care less now how many bullets FREDO takes, in fact they are chuckling over it. They care not a whit how he looks or how we feel about AG AG....

TheraP wrote on July 30, 2007 11:04 AM:

Steve5117:

They don't care about the "product." They're willing to sell the country downriver to stave off the endgame. Maybe the war, all along, has simply been a cover for a constitutional grab.

And Gonzales the dysfunctional bandaid applied to a stinking, festering infection - once Ashcroft was seen as not completely loyal to bush, but willing to stand up for the Constitution.

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 11:06 AM:

"Now, I don't want to rush to judgment."

If this is a rush to judgement, I'd like to see th slow version...

It has taken six years and a thousand blatant lies from every quarter, to create the milieu mush of mis-direction the Bush administration has concocted.

Paul, I know it was a snarky statement, I just had to note the irony. If this "judgement" was a critter, it would be a tortoise.

But with the old game of ball having been changed into a game of throwing handfuls (nay, bucketfuls) of sand into the eyes of all the umpires, now we are investigating the investigators who investigate investiqators....

Like a dragon eating itself starting at its own tail.

What galls me is that these liars like Gonzo and The Girls think they are protecting SOMETHING and SOMEONE(s) instead of breaking the law. They want some massive, co-opted Republican lie to become accepted reality, so openly and repeatedly lying to The People is the only way to accomplish it. They donot realize yet, their delusions of a thousand year Republican majority was just one more vain foray into the world of imperial arrogfance. And we know what has happened to every other "lone world super-power" throughout history.

Each of them is now remembered in history books that begin with the title "The Rise and Fall of the__________ Empire," ...just fill in the blank.

Remember the "Truth Chair" in Star Trek, the one that worked like a lie detector? We need one of those in Congress, where C-Span can broadcast it, connected to a hand-crank generator, like the ones they use as Abu Gahrib.

Then we should hook these liars up by the nards, and every time they tell a lie or take more than about 3 seconds to answer, ( as tey formulate their latestlie) give em' a little jolt.

That might clear up some of these chronic recurring amnesia attacks.

Hey, it's NOT torture, didn't you read that "America doesn't torture" signing statement? C'mon folks, we need to trust our President and his imminently qualified opinion about torture and the death penalty.

bartkid wrote on July 30, 2007 11:12 AM:

>Is Alberto Gonzales a liar? a slippery parser of language? an amnesiac (as yet undiagnosed)? Or is he just an idiot?

All of the above.
This has been another edition of answering rhetorical questions.

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 11:13 AM:

Moondancer at 10:53
"Next, this is no game for them. I think the extent of their malfeasance is so great that they are in desperation mode."
I think you are spot-on here, they are well past critical mass, just waiting for something, anything to defer the inevitable justification.

Behind Bush's nervous grin lies a seething fear of unfettered public scrutiny, and a mortal hatred for anyone who would openly question the Emperor's gross nakedness.

Now that we all know he's nekkid as a jaybird (jailbird?) it's awfully hard to keep the grin up.

Beware the cornered beast...

cervantes wrote on July 30, 2007 11:19 AM:

Is there some law against saying that the guy is a pathological liar?

Apparently it's illegal to say that about Chimpy as well. So what's the penalty?

Waiting for Truth wrote on July 30, 2007 11:21 AM:

Reminds me of the ploy each of my children has tried, generally around age 7:
"Did you brush your teeth?"
"Yes."
"This morning?"
"Um, well, not exactly."
----
Maybe no one corrected young Alberto, so he thinks has has finely hued these "parsing" skills.
So much for "the-whole-truth" part of his oath.

Orwell's Intuition wrote on July 30, 2007 11:26 AM:

DickTater, you nailed it. Remember how bush pushed to eliminate asbestos litigation to protect Dresser Industries? Connect the dots to cheney.

Moondancer, gonzo did a lot of damage as counsel to bush, specifically as his adviser on death penalty cases, with bush setting a record for executions, including a retarded man and another man whose lawyer fell asleep during the trial. Only one person had his sentence commuted, Henry Lee Lucas, notorious serial killer, who lived the rest of his life in prison. No surprise, bush managed to find some wiggle room in the law so he could commute the sentence of someone with the same moral depravity.

illinitarheel wrote on July 30, 2007 11:29 AM:

Thank God for the Muckraker comments -- and for the commentators who write them. They give me some tiny bit of reassurance that all is not lost, and that there still are at least a few people who see things as they really are.

I'd be more reassured if I thought a few people who now hold the reins of power would read, and
understand, what's written here.

Llyonnoc wrote on July 30, 2007 11:31 AM:

It doesn't mater if Gonzales lied or not. That can be debated all day long. The idea must be to get to the truth. Perhaps there were 5 different intelligence programs being discussed. Let's label them Program A,B,C,D,E. Have everyone agree on what each label means and then ask each involved to tell which one was disputed and which one was not; which one was the subject of the hospital dash and which not.

Right now when I see Gonzales testify I can only see him as the dealer of a three-card Monte game and the Republican shills standing around with the American people as the mark. Gonzales is the shiny exemplar of what the Bush/Cheney boys are about. The Americans people are marks to be duped; the laws are for them but not for us; all right guess which card is the Queen of Spades. Ooops, sorry, wrong guess.

jb wrote on July 30, 2007 11:35 AM:

What is it about us that we can't "get" the truth that Bush/Cheney are oilmen, and that the entire fiasco in Iraq is about privatizing oil so they, and their friends, can become not only dictators but fabulously rich dictators. AG AG is nothing more than a hired hand of the administration that is carrying out this scheme. And, as far as their attitude toward the constitution, and other laws, just see it all as a cover for their primary motivation - oil money! In the meantime, however, they have done all their oil entrepenurship at the cost of American and Iraqi lives, and American debt for our grandchildren to worry about. I say impeach them, yes, more even more so put them behind bars for the rest of their lives. And this is only if we can't get the law reestablished that allows hangings.

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 11:36 AM:

"Reminds me of the ploy each of my children has tried, generally around age 7:"

I've said it before, my children were better liars than Gonzo and the rest of these Bushes at age five.

Stupid liars versus smart liars; I have to admit that is one of my serious issues with the administration, they are such doofuses that they can't even LIE effectively.

Don't get me wrong, a lie is always a lousy option, especially from people we should be able to trust.

But my point is, if you have to tell a lie, at least make it remotely believable, then spin it with some sort of conviction.

My kids knew that ever since they were old enough to twist the truth for their own immediate convenience (such a natural instinct!)

But as for the Bushies, they screw up everything they do. These guys can't even LIE successfully. Their lies are so full of holes, the truth is leaking out all over!

So what happens in response to this sorry serial failure?

We repeatedly give them a blank check to commit war-for-profit!

INCREDIBLE!

Samsara wrote on July 30, 2007 11:36 AM:

OK, let me see if I got this right. AGAG testified that there was no conflict within the administration about the warrantless wiretapping program that the President revealed. He says that this is true, despite his midnight ride to the hospital, because that conflict was over the program before it was changed, and was therefore not the program the President revealed.

Question: Did they change the name of the program when Bush gave in to Ashcroft's concerns. When we amend the Constitution it remains the Constitution.

Even if you buy this "technically right" argument, AGAG's credibility is shot and no one is willing to listen to him. He has no defenders on the hill or in the media.

Recess Appointment? Don't recess!!!!!!!! I hope moondancer is right!!!!!!!!!!

GBlanston wrote on July 30, 2007 11:38 AM:

As an attorney, I can guarantee that making the case for impeachment, removal and prosecution for War Crimes is assistant-DA simple (and I'm not knocking ADAs; I have done that job.)

AG AG's brazen display is schoolyard taunting designed to draw fire away from the real targets, Cheney, Rove and W.

The current Congress is nothing less than complicit in perpetuating'allowing/encouraging this behavior by talking much and doing nothing.

Impeach. Remove. Prosecute for War Crimes.

This includes Pelosi, Reid, and any other Congressperson who permits these atrocities to continue.

I worry that peaceful means to fix this problem have already run out, and would love for y'all to disabuse me of this.

peace.

moondancer wrote on July 30, 2007 11:41 AM:

Thanks Orwell. I didnt mean to imply any competence or my agreement w/fredo as personal counsel to shrub. Once a shitheel lackey always a... well you get the idea.

spencers mom wrote on July 30, 2007 11:43 AM:

Seriously, isn't there some legal precedent for subjecting this guy to a lie-detector test? If someone states that he "can't recall" and that suffices as an answer, why would ANYONE admit to remembering something that isn't convenient for them? How can congressional investigators prove that not recalling is a lie, and therefore perjury?

And if he "can't recall", perhaps a good dose of sodium pentathol (truth serum) could help him get over his "blocking" of specific events.

We can all thank the Reagan administration for authoring the "I don't recall" defense, although in his case it probably was true.

PEACE

Anonymous wrote on July 30, 2007 11:55 AM:

It doesn't matter how bad things get for Gonzo, Bush will never fire him or allow him to resign for a very simple reason: they need him to be the incompetent dissembling buffoon he is. If he goes, where will they ever find a replacement willing to give them the cover he does? And how will they ever get him confirmed? Any AG that can pass confirmation will be one who is willing to actually do his job, which is the last thing the Bushies want.

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 12:09 PM:

"Remember how bush pushed to eliminate asbestos litigation to protect Dresser Industries? Connect the dots to cheney."

For all those evangelicultists who think the ROberts Supreme Court was cobbled together to protect their social issues, you had better also hope you never have to face a coproratin inthat same court.

The Roberts SCOTUS is notyhing more (or less) than a corporate tool, a monopolist wolf dressed in free-enterprise sheep's clothing.

Abortion, gay marriage, stem-cell research, all those "moral" issues you cult lemmings think will be "fixed" by Alito and Roberts and the rest of the Bush Gang of 5, better hope you never have to file a lawsuit for asbestos or any other coprorate malfeasance, no matter how pernicious and egregious, because your heroes will quickly become your villains.

Anonymous wrote on July 30, 2007 12:10 PM:

Can anyone even begin to imagine what the MSM and our pundits would be saying if this little turd were a Democrat?

Has anyone seen any MSM references to the NYTimes' call for Gonzo's impeachment? Certainly not moi.
If Gonzo were a Dem that story would metastsize to no end and be spread from here to there.

molly wrote on July 30, 2007 12:12 PM:

As counsel to Bush in Texas...the only pardon from the death penalty was a serial killer who tortured and mutilated his victims. Huffpo is saying Gonzales masochist? I'm thinking Bush sadist? Seems to be a perfect fit for perverts. Way to many Bush cronies are into pedophillia and sadistic techniques as a means for drug rehab. for kids. Mark Foley? Was he ever tried?

molly wrote on July 30, 2007 12:16 PM:

Huffpo is saying Gonzales may be masochistic. As counsel to Bush in Texas the only pardon that was given was a serial killer who tortured ad mutilated his victims. The Bushes are associated with way to many people into pedophillia and torturing kids as a means for drup rehab.Sadist and masochist...perfect pervert fit. Gonzales looks at Bush like he is in love.

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 12:20 PM:

"If he goes, where will they ever find a replacement willing to give them the cover he does?"

Dan Lungren?

Jim DeRosa wrote on July 30, 2007 12:23 PM:

Under-qualified idiot...like most people in this administration, including the President.

cal1942 wrote on July 30, 2007 12:24 PM:

Liar, forgetful, stupid.

Any one of the above is grounds to dump him.

Tom Betz wrote on July 30, 2007 12:25 PM:

Moondancer is WRONG. Barring action by Harry Reid, the Senate will recess on August 6, and not return until after Labor Day.

Click on my name to see the official Senate schedule.

Then call and e-mail your Senators (and Harry Reid) and insist that the Senate NOT take the recess!

If they take this recess, Gonzales will resign and Bush will recess-appoint another toady, like John Yoo.

Steve5117 wrote on July 30, 2007 12:25 PM:

JEP

John Yoo

emerald wrote on July 30, 2007 12:27 PM:

First, one can be both an idiot and a liar.
Second, I wish someone in the national media would re-visit the Texas funeral home scandal to get a real feeling for how long Abu's (and Bush's) history of corruption is.

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 12:34 PM:

Yoo, too, would enable like Gonzo.

Hey, here's a fun idea, if they appoint Yoo, we can send camera crews to follow him around, call it "YOO TOOB!"

But Lungren is certainly the more-qualified of the two, from his years as the California Attorney General, when he really worked for the Feds insteads of the state.

He has already proven his loyalties are to the people behind Bush, and he's shown over and over again in Congressional hearings that he is desperat to PROTECT the guilty, instead of questioning them.

Yoo's recess appointment might just be the straw that breaks that recess appointment back, Congress needs to eliminate that option fr this AND future Presidents, whatever party they hail from.

"Advise and consent" should never be circumnavigated, and its meaning should never be marginalized.

It is the key to our whole system of checks and balances.

Recess appointments should become an extinct species, nothing more than a bad memory of misguided policy.

Tootsweet...

Anonymous wrote on July 30, 2007 12:36 PM:

Here's the contest: Write your best guesses as to who's on the short list to be recess appointed as AG if Gonzales resigns during Congress' summer break.

Remember, a recess appointment will last through the end of Bush's term...

Ready. Set. Go.

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 12:40 PM:

Yoo might be a recess appointmet, true, but if it comes to an actual confirmation, Lungren may be the only name in the mix that might actually get approval, although not from his California fellows.

So my take on this is that, if it is a recess appointment, it will be Yoo, if it is subject to COngressional approval when the end of Gonzo's era happens, Lungren is one of the only likely successors to Gonzales, who MIGHT (and that is even iffy) be confirmed by Congress...

Remember, he's one of them!

Johnsnottoodistracted wrote on July 30, 2007 12:58 PM:

If he gets any more less-honest he will be unreal.If he becomes unreal enough he may not be here any longer.
In other words he is living in a fantasy.But for him the fantasy keeps pushing out the real until now he doesn't even try and push back.
Fantasy has become easier for him.
What does roveroo give these people?

TheraP wrote on July 30, 2007 12:59 PM:

They will NEVER WILLINGLY let go of Gonzo-Lies. Never. Not willingly. He is the perfect foil.

Carl from L.A. wrote on July 30, 2007 1:01 PM:

You are seriously underestimating Gonzales.

His passive-aggressive clowning has now used up several months of Congress' time in getting to the bottom of the Bush Administration's criminality, and it is now less than eighteen months until Bush leaves office.

This entire thing is a stalling game, and Gonzales knows (thinks?- remember at Colin Powell) he will be taken care of, so he falls on his sword.

Bush and Cheney believe that, if they can just get to the end of their term unimpeached, they and the captive press can shout down any further inquiry as ancient history, and escape all consequences of their criminality.

Gonzales is doing a masterful job of aiding them.

moondancer wrote on July 30, 2007 1:06 PM:

Thought I read that they planned to have local senators available so that shrub cannot make recess appts. If I'm wrong then thats bad for US.

LM wrote on July 30, 2007 1:10 PM:

Gonzales grew up in a racist, white-trailer trash redneck world, from a generation of Hispanics that usually had to accept their "inferiority" as imposed by their overlords. During that short era in American history of real affirmative action, he found he could have safe success--go to top colleges, law school, a career in Texas government--if he was a butt-kissing sycophant to the most powerful white family in Texas: the Bushes.

He has enjoyed fame and fortune he never would have seen without his service to them, because he lacks the intellect and character to stand on his own without their propping him up. Without all the sketchy stuff he has been willing to do for Bush, he would have been an ordinary ambulance-chasing lawyer. Like Harriet Miers, he is pretty much just a mediocre idiot.

And he is a most loyal, mediocre idiot, is he not?

JEP wrote on July 30, 2007 1:20 PM:

"His passive-aggressive clowning has now used up several months of Congress' time..."
...and in the process, he has "used up" most of the good will the American public once maintained for their president, even if he was George W. Bush.

Now the very office of President itself, not just the lousy jerk who holds it, has suffered immeasurably. Gonzales' clown act only makes it worse, imposing the same failure-mode on the AG's office as Bush has on the presidency.

The shame and failure of this administration is an ugly, permanent tattoo on our collective citizen conscience.

We will never be able to expunge it from the history books, and it will be at least another generation before the damage has been remotely assuaged.

interested litigant wrote on July 30, 2007 1:29 PM:

Alberto Gonzales IS an American Hero

http://www.americandaily.com/article/19732

Kathleen wrote on July 30, 2007 1:32 PM:

Subpoena Philbin and Addington. Philbin objected to the scope of the wiretaping program, Addington got rid of Philbin. Call them into testify.

parrot wrote on July 30, 2007 1:36 PM:

Let the Senate figure it out during AG AG's impeachment trial. And the sooner, the better!

Anonymous wrote on July 30, 2007 1:36 PM:

moondancer - I heard some discussion of that a while back, but I don't think it was ever decided to do that. Seems like the logical plan, though. I'm sure the Mayberry Machiavellis would use the opportunity to appoint another toady to the post.

Austin Cooper wrote on July 30, 2007 1:38 PM:

Oh, impeach the little turd, already.

Code = smell

Shameless wrote on July 30, 2007 1:39 PM:

Jake D? Where's Jake D? Where's the Gonzalez defense squad? Anyone?

Hmmm. Guess they must've all gone off to the recruiting station or something.

myiq2xu wrote on July 30, 2007 1:46 PM:

This guy makes Zippy the Pinhead look like a genius

TheraP wrote on July 30, 2007 1:59 PM:

Last week when I heard bush's voice, it literally sounded just like gonzales. I think they're using the same language, the same words, the same hesitations and phrases. It's scary!

There is a project going on. A spin-off of the DoJ problems, the gonzo-lies, the Ashcroft refusal to sign even when gonzo went to his bedside (would you SIGN for this guy???). The project was begun by Mrs. Panstreppon, I believe. And is now being carried forward by someone who remains anonymous, but I'm sure has inherited her mantle.

Click my name for a blog post ("The better to eat you with, my dear") - which begins to outline the project and the extent of malfeasance we are faced with. Our first task is to synthesize and transfer the extensive posts of our anonymous tpm commenter. And to follow up on the suggested google links.

Thanks for help and comments.

rlogan wrote on July 30, 2007 2:11 PM:

Is this a trick question?

When Gonzales lied was he telling the truth and got things mixed up or couldn't remember or meant something else or...?

matt rose wrote on July 30, 2007 2:15 PM:

I believe Gonzo is loyal to his man Bush, but beyond that it's a pretty clear choice for him right now.

Stick with the Bush and get Pardoned, or tell the truth down and go to prison.

Someone should let him know that Mr Bush will be out of office soon, and that his lies will not be forgotten. Of course, seeing how poorly he understands the law a risk that he does not realize that Bush will not be able to pardon him after 2008.

Troll Patrol wrote on July 30, 2007 2:17 PM:

They banned him!

GeneK wrote on July 30, 2007 2:32 PM:

Gonzales and Bush (and Cheney) have a few more tricks up their sleeve. My prediction: after the start of the August congressional recess, Gonzales resigns and John Bolton--recess appointee extradordinaire--is appointed to take his place as AG for the next year, causing even more Congressional consternation and befuddlement.

GeneK wrote on July 30, 2007 2:34 PM:

Gonzales and Bush (and Cheney) have a few more tricks up their collective sleeves. My prediction: after the start of the August congressional recess, Gonzales resigns and Bush appoints John Bolton--recess appointee extradordinaire--as AG for the next year, causing even more Congressional consternation and befuddlement.

Cowboy wrote on July 30, 2007 2:41 PM:

Gonzales is a smart attorney. The problem for him is that he's not as slick, or as good, as he thinks he is.

Erica wrote on July 30, 2007 3:25 PM:

It's depressing to think that our country needs to worry about situations such as these and we cannot focus on real issues that the world is suffering from such as Global Poverty. According to the Borgen project, the United States contributed to the fight ending the Small pox epidemic. We have the power to change the world so why are we falling apart from the seams?

markg8 wrote on July 30, 2007 3:38 PM:

Fredo's not going to resign. The crimes he's covering up are as much his as they are the rest of Bush White House.

Harmonika wrote on July 30, 2007 3:54 PM:

Gonzalez's biggest problem is that all of America, apparently does not mind having a mouthbreathing idiot for president, as long as he surrounds himself with competent people.

We expect stupidity from GWB, so Alberto's ploy is wearisome.

Harmonika wrote on July 30, 2007 3:54 PM:

Gonzalez's biggest problem is that all of America, apparently does not mind having a mouthbreathing idiot for president, as long as he surrounds himself with competent people.

We expect stupidity from GWB, so Alberto's ploy is wearisome.

Cowboy wrote on July 30, 2007 3:57 PM:

I agree with your sentiments Erica. Although I would state that the consequences of inept and corrupt leadership tends to equal a real issue in and of itself.

The sad fact is that our capacity to be a force of good in the world is seriously diminished, if we have the kind of heavily politicized and corrupt legal system on the federal level that you find throughout the third world, and in places like Texas.

Phyllis E Sato wrote on July 30, 2007 3:59 PM:

Granted his truthfulness is questionable, but even more egregious is his unquestioning (and untroubled) assertion of commander-in-chief powers that essentially gives Bush a blank check from torture, suspension of habeas corpus to the TPS. His actions and speech cry out subservience to his boss - Bush - not the whole nation.

Phyllis E Sato wrote on July 30, 2007 4:00 PM:

Granted his truthfulness is questionable, but even more egregious is his unquestioning (and untroubled) assertion of commander-in-chief powers that essentially gives Bush a blank check from torture, suspension of habeas corpus to the TPS. His actions and speech cry out subservience to his boss - Bush - not the whole nation.

Joelfromwestmont wrote on July 30, 2007 4:09 PM:

As a first time poster, I have a question that I hope someone more knowledgable than I can answer. If Gonzales were to leave office, someone would be named as an acting AG until such time as the administration acted formally to make a recess appointment or nominate a candidate for senate approval. Would anything prevent the administation from meerly keeping the acting AG and never taking action to formally fill the opening? If so, would the senate's only recourse be to file a mandamus action to force the administration to fill the vacant spot?

Rich wrote on July 30, 2007 4:21 PM:

Funny, much like Bush they can't bring themselves to call him a liar. If he were a Dem, this wouldn't be an issue.

Aaron wrote on July 30, 2007 4:31 PM:

The truly absurd thing about Fredo's assertion that there was no debate about the program "the president confirmed" is that he's essentially saying: There was no disagreement about the program that was agreed upon. Before that, before we reached an agreement, there was plenty of disagreement. But once a compromise was reached, there was no disagreement.

StephenH wrote on July 30, 2007 4:40 PM:

It's always been obvious to me that he's a compulsive liar. Alberto Gonzales wears a perpetual smirk that seems to say, “Don’t you realize how much fun it is to keep telling these outrageous lies to people who can’t do a single thing about it?” It’s just as if he and Bush were cloned from the same ugly smirk.

global yokel wrote on July 30, 2007 5:21 PM:

I notice that Abu Gonzales is pretty good at remembering things that tend to reflect favorably on himself. It's the bad stuff that he just can't seem to recall....

Breaking News wrote on July 30, 2007 5:46 PM:

Gonzo's a goner - impeachment proceedings start tomorrow !

Anonymous wrote on July 30, 2007 6:40 PM:

LM

Sheesh! Why don't you get right to the point and say what you're thinking.

bob wrote on July 30, 2007 8:21 PM:

Gonzales has made it into the medical texts. Look under "Gonzalzheimer's Disease"

Ace wrote on July 30, 2007 10:06 PM:

AG is a lying MAGGOT!

Ace wrote on July 30, 2007 10:07 PM:

AG is a lying MAGGOT!

Ace wrote on July 30, 2007 10:08 PM:

AG is a lying MAGGOT!

fastfeat wrote on July 30, 2007 11:18 PM:

Remember waaay back at the start of the Iraqi Occupation (the current one), the deck of playing cards with Saddam as the King of Spades (or whatever he was), and all other 51 players in W's 'War of Treason'?

Has anyone come up with the companion deck with all the Bush Co. thugs, thieves, cronies, convicted/indicted criminals, 'holier-than-none' wannabees, etc?? I know it may be hard to whittle it down to 52 cards. But that's OK, a few extra jokers is to be expected with this group...

Time for someone to start printing...I'll take the first ten decks...

Molly Ivans wrote on July 30, 2007 11:25 PM:

Raise Hell!!

melior wrote on July 31, 2007 2:20 AM:

This made me laugh, but it has to be a parody.

"Alberto Gonzales is an American Hero. He is serving his country in a capacity that will make his name revered for generations to come. He is placing country before self, and I am so proud of him. I certainly hope I am the first person to publicly thank him for his sacrifice and service and dedication and loyalty to nation. Thank you, Alberto Gonzales."

jimbo92107 wrote on July 31, 2007 6:46 AM:

Did you know he was born a Mexican? That means we should respect his heritage, and with that the easygoing way he applies the law. It's a kind of siesta, which in Mexican means an afternoon nap for the law. If his patron, George the president, wants Alberto to find out the legality of something, that's just what he does - find out why it's legal. When your number one client is the president of the United States, you make it your business to say, 'can do, sir!" And that counts for the law, too.