Comments (107)

C92 wrote on September 11, 2007 4:41 PM:

Any wonder, then, that Senator Lieberman is on the Board of the Richard Nixon Center?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Nixon_Center

sailmaker wrote on September 11, 2007 4:54 PM:

Good god. The last time they showed the evidence from what they said was Iran, the small bombs had '5-31-03' on the sides, American civilian date format. I'll skip comment on the Colin Powell figment of evidence.

Given this adminstrations (and to be fair most other admins) excuses for evidence, I'm glad Petraeus had the sense to basically say 'no'.

Kelly wrote on September 11, 2007 5:02 PM:

Like him or not Lieberman is first and foremost Jewish, if he took the time to look out for America's interests first instead of Israels this country would be better off. The man is a complete ass!

Laney wrote on September 11, 2007 5:03 PM:

Does anyone pretend that Lieberman's desire for a US war against Iran has any basis other than his affection for Israel? Sometimes dual loyalty isn't an anti-semitic slur. Sometmes dual loyalty is a fact.

Doofus wrote on September 11, 2007 5:07 PM:

Feel the Joementum!

Northern Observer wrote on September 11, 2007 5:12 PM:

Lieberman has twisted guts, that's for sure.
Always ready to use someone elses life to prove how tough he is.
What a disgrace.

sanfelipebob wrote on September 11, 2007 5:12 PM:

Has Lieberman lost his mind. Oh that's right, you have to have something in order to lose it. This man needs to be committed

PrahaPartizan wrote on September 11, 2007 5:15 PM:

Lieberman's question merely displays Lieberman's lack of experience in military uniform or even in national security affairs. Why would the Qods force be actively involved as a body inside Iraq when they have Iraqi surrogates more than willing to pursue activities which just happen to coincide with Iranian objectives.

Besides, isn't the area where the Iranians are most likely to be active exactly that quiet area which the British just turned over to the Iraqis? Just how are the Iranians supposed to be supporting the Iraqis actually attacking the American forces in Iraq. Does Senator Lieberman actually believe that the Iranians (who are Shi'ite) are supporting the Iraqi insurgents (who are predominantly Sunni) in attacking Americans? Lieberman clearly has been quaffing too deeply from Kewl-Aid punch bowl.

daniel mckeehan wrote on September 11, 2007 5:16 PM:

I wish the people of Conn. would move to get him out of office some way, he is more dangerious then bush. Daniel;

Johann wrote on September 11, 2007 5:17 PM:

Thank you Connecticut voters for giving us Joseph Lieberman, the gift that keeps on giving - to Israel.

thomas wrote on September 11, 2007 5:17 PM:

the senator from Likud strikes again

workaday joe wrote on September 11, 2007 5:20 PM:

Sometimes I wonder if Republicans hate their "moderate" members as much. I think there is something quantitatively different about Lieberman. What's the Republican equivalent? Arlen Spector? Maybe John McCain? Can't be. Those two are far too sane - even if I totally disagree with McCain (and haven't forgiven him for endorsing Bush in '04).

daniel mckeehan wrote on September 11, 2007 5:20 PM:

He is the most dangerious member of the senate. I don't think he cares about this country, I agree he cares more about isrial. I am not an not pregitious but lieberman is.

P J Evans wrote on September 11, 2007 5:23 PM:

What, exactly, does JoeL think will happen if we attack Iran? Does he expect the world oil supply to magically migrate to the Gulf Coast? Does he seriously think that the rest of the world will suddenly start praising Bush as the Savior of Humanity?

Not. F*cking. Likely.

GR wrote on September 11, 2007 5:24 PM:

The guy is a caricature of himself. Its as if he took the mythical "centrist" principles he created out of political convenience, convinced himself they were actually valid and then decided to promote policies that stem from the this bizarro world view.

You could publish the absurdity coming from this guy in the Onion and not change a word.

Lieberman Sucks, But... wrote on September 11, 2007 5:28 PM:

Wow. Several borderline anti-Semitic comments here. Is it wrong to conflate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism? Sure. Of course it's perfectly appropriate to criticize Israel and the current state of United States-Israel relations. AND Lieberman's an ass. But "Like him or not, Lieberman is first and foremost Jewish...", as if that indicates that something about him is inherently against the interests of America, just... wow.

Marc wrote on September 11, 2007 5:29 PM:

Maybe he just wants Iran to pay a price for supporting attacks on US troops.

Nah, the rest of you must be right. He's a Jew and he disagrees with you so he must be thinking of Israel to the exclusion of American interests.

mattstan wrote on September 11, 2007 5:36 PM:

Wow. Several borderline anti-Semitic comments here.

Yeah, very likely from the same IP address.

mattstan wrote on September 11, 2007 5:37 PM:

Wow. Several borderline anti-Semitic comments here.

Yeah, very likely from the same IP address.

tom wrote on September 11, 2007 5:38 PM:

I don't see it as a slur of Israel or Jews at all. It's pointedly a criticism of Lieberman and his misplaced loyalty.

Frances wrote on September 11, 2007 5:45 PM:

The general's response should have been: "It looks like you're cruising for a fight, Joe. Let me get you some fatigues and an M-16 and we'll drop you in country tomorrow. You know, it would be so good for the morale of the troops to see a real leader take the point for a change."

How much do you think Joe would appreciate the chance to fight for his country?

I thought the Arabs were semites too. Together with the Jews they don't work on Shaboss [more or less the same day], they don't eat pork and they cut off part of their dicks. They should fall into each other's arms and make sweet, sweet love together.

We are all semetic wrote on September 11, 2007 5:46 PM:

Did not take long for the tired "anti-semitic" slur to get here.

Art Brodsky wrote on September 11, 2007 5:57 PM:

Yes, Joe Lieberman is Jewish. But so are Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer. Being Jewish has nothing to do with it. Being an idiot does.

oleeb wrote on September 11, 2007 5:58 PM:

It really is difficult to comrehend just how much of an self-agrandizing, irresponsible, egotistical, out of touch, bloodthirsty, asshole Joe Lieberman really and truly is. He is so intellectually and morally dishonest it is just breathtaking. If I saw him I think I would be unable to restrain myself from spitting on him. I find him that contemptible.

oleeb wrote on September 11, 2007 5:59 PM:

Joe Lieberman: contemptible asshole.

Geazer wrote on September 11, 2007 6:05 PM:

Whiny Joe's at it again. I sure wish that NBC would bring back ALF so that he'd have something to do.

Jasper Coltrane wrote on September 11, 2007 6:07 PM:

It's not anti-Semitic in the slightest to say that Joe Lieberman is working on behalf of Israel at the expense of the country (America, Joe?) he works as a Connecticut senator for. And that's the key right there, that he's a frigging senator, because as such he sets (and helps to set) policy, aligning the interests and largesse of this country with...well, primarily, Israel, which one assumes (dangerous assumption) doesn't have a district or state called Connecticut. Although maybe it does. Who can tell anymore?

I despise the loose tossing of the "treason" or "traitor" charge because those are very heavy indictments, and if you're gonna level them, you damn well better "have some teeth in your hand" (Reynolds). Joe Lieberman really, really tempts the uttering of those damning words, because it would seem that he honestly, truly, absolutely, indubitably is NOT working for America's best interests. In fact - and here's the ultimate wampum charge - if, say, it came out that Lieberman was a full-on Israeli agent, working against America at Israel's behest, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

He's a warmonger, that's for sure, in love with running blood and chaos and ever-mounting flames. So even if we weren't going the "America comes last" route, we'd still have Joe's adoration of bullets 'n bombs. How Lamont could lose to this wiper is one for the ages, I tell you.

Anonymous wrote on September 11, 2007 6:13 PM:

"I don't think he cares about this country, I agree he cares more about israel"

Actually, Lieberman cares mostly about himself.

Mark F wrote on September 11, 2007 6:13 PM:

Lieberman is, quite simply, a bloodthirsty vampire.

chaunceyatrest wrote on September 11, 2007 6:21 PM:

Let's face it. The American political establishment -- Democrats & Republicans -- dotes on Israel. I don't know if it's out of some misguided notion that Israel, as a Western-style democracy, provides some sort of counterweight to desotic Arab regimes (which they prop up or tear down whenever convenient), or if it's because Israel has one of the most finely tuned lobbies on Capitol Hill, but this problem didn't begin with Joe Lieberman. He's just a boil on the surface of it.

chaunceyatrest wrote on September 11, 2007 6:24 PM:

Sorry... that should have "despotic Arab regimes..."

madashell wrote on September 11, 2007 6:25 PM:

It is fairly common knowledge that the largest group of lobbyists in Washington is the Isreali lobby. They are funded quite well with the million dollars per day our government sends them. Joe is just doing his part as a citizen. Someone in congress needs to take the money and represent this group.

chaunceyatrest wrote on September 11, 2007 6:25 PM:

Argh... that should have read "despotic Arab regimes..."

db wrote on September 11, 2007 6:28 PM:

"Thank you Connecticut voters for giving us Joseph Lieberman, the gift that keeps on giving"

Don't forget to thank TPM and David Kurtz, who thought it silly to support Lamont and spilled plenty of internet ink arguing that we should just let Lieberman win and not "waste" resources on Lamont.

Go David!

Jason Cravat wrote on September 11, 2007 6:45 PM:

Some of the comments here ARE anti-Semitic. Lieberman's powerfully shortsighted views are reflective of Likkud (and the neo-cons, not all of them Jewish), not all or even the majority of Israelis and certainly not all Jews.

sand wrote on September 11, 2007 6:51 PM:

The anti-semitic slur stuff isn't working in this case. Joe Lieberman's allegance is to Israel first...it's just a fact. And I am not anti-semitic; I have nothing against Israel.

Anonymous wrote on September 11, 2007 6:53 PM:

What is so freaking typical, the same mistakes (let alone rhetoric) used to attack Iraq repeated ad nauseum now. Bottom line, again NO research on the regions (ie: sectarian issues in Iraq) ....in Iran.

Lieberman, our resident Israeli Lobbyist was thumping for his cause today using the hearing for his inappropriate a forum as he is wont.

Lieberman and Cheney's favorite hot spot for their phallic nukes: Isfahan, Iran. Isfahan has several hundred thousand, if not millions, of JEWISH people, all were given sanctuary in Iran during and after WWII because we wouldn't any more than the Europeans didn't. They and their families live and thrive there all these years since.

Lieberman, would he honestly donate that many brethern's lives for his personal needs/ego? Or would it then be his focus for Israel to nuke us back in retaliation due to "never again"

Jimbo wrote on September 11, 2007 7:07 PM:

Lieberman has always been this treacly and offensive, at least at any time since he's been visible nationally. What a turkey.

Mellifluous wrote on September 11, 2007 7:22 PM:

Shoulda guessed. A chickenhawk.

SR wrote on September 11, 2007 7:27 PM:

Um, the thing is that even if you think it's a "fact" that Joe L is representing Israel over his own country, pointing out that fact allows the discussion to wander and is not a real argument against what he is saying.

The real Irony of any argument to take military action against Iran is that It is the MidEast country where the U.S. is undoubtedly the most popular on "the street." There is a deep well of dissatisfaction with the regime, both for its overbearing islamism and for its economic incompetence.

I plain terms of realpolitik, we (the USA) should gather any evidence we can of Iranian malfeasance in Iraq and use it to convince other nations in Europ and Asia to step up pressure on Iran to rejoin the community ofd nations as a member in good standing. Other resources should be used to support students and activists in Iran in NON-MILITARY ways. If done properly, the current Iranian regime will fall of its own weight in a matter of a few more years--or when oil prices fall--which ever comes first

SR wrote on September 11, 2007 7:29 PM:

In plain terms, I meant.

SR wrote on September 11, 2007 7:32 PM:

Okay, alot of mistakes in that post. But I'm not a 'tard; I swear.

SR wrote on September 11, 2007 7:32 PM:

Okay, alot of mistakes in that post. But I'm not a 'tard; I swear.

regular lurker wrote on September 11, 2007 8:24 PM:

Lieberman is such an ass. Why anyone voted for him is beyond me. Why anyone at TPM supported him, is waaaay beyond me. But then, TPM has a less than stellar track record on certain issues that matter.

(yeah Josh, still haven't forgotten nor forgiven your support of the Iraq War. Apologize all you want, but you drove that wagon right along side Judith Miller.)

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© wrote on September 11, 2007 8:38 PM:

Please take a look at Glenn Greenwald's review of the Crocker and Petraeus show on FAUX.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/11/petraeus_interview/index.html

litigatormom wrote on September 11, 2007 9:13 PM:

Liebertoad probably was trying to impress Rudy Giuliani and Ann Coulter, with whom he's celebrating the 9/11 anniversary tonight.

A Georgia Democrat wrote on September 11, 2007 9:16 PM:

The Germans have a word for the likes of Lieberman, it is 'Nestbeschmutzer'.

The Democrats that supported him to the bitter end, Schumer, Clinton etc. should be ashamed, as should the progressive media that gives the idiot any coverage, period. That includes TPM.

Hah, funny security code ' basin' as in 'give me a big one i have to puke a lot'.

goatchowder wrote on September 11, 2007 9:25 PM:

No Kelly, it is not about Lieberman being Jewish. It is about Lieberman being an insane maniac.

Feingold is just as Jewish as Lieberman, and you'll never see Feingold cheerleading yet another idiotic war we don't need. Feingold is a hero.

I just saw Feingold completely decimating Crocker, by pointing out what a farce this whole war is. Proud, Jewish, progressive, smart, and a patriotic American, yay Feingold.

I'd argue that there are easily as many, if not more, crazed Christians in Congress and the Senate, salivating for war with Iran.

Meah Bottoms wrote on September 11, 2007 9:30 PM:

Joe Lieberman is a whining neo-con. Cheney, Kristol, etc. are neo-cons. Kristol is biting at the bit to invade Iran. Cheney also. They are all nuts! It is pathetic that the bottom line is that we are talking about attacking and bombing a soverign nation who has nation interests in Iraq and rightfully so, more than the US--geographically. When we bomb a soverign nation, we KILL innocent people. What is the matter with these warmongers? How much blood do they want on their hands. What is so incredible is that they have learned NOTHING about the quagmire they precipitated with their insane ideas of forcing democracy down the throat of others. Lieberman is a disgrace because he has a vote and the votes are Republican. It makes me sick that he is head of the Homeland Security Committee. Oh, yea, he's keeping our country safe alright.

Anonymous wrote on September 11, 2007 9:41 PM:

I knew Joe Lieberman before he was a Republican.

db wrote on September 11, 2007 9:46 PM:

"Some of the comments here ARE anti-Semitic."

How pathetic. I've heard that charge so many times over nothing but political criticism since the invasion of iraq that it no longer has any meaning whatsoever. It's now a cheap, limp school-yard taunt. Congratulations!

kozmik wrote on September 11, 2007 10:00 PM:

Lieberman was bad enough before, but since Lamont has broken all ties with the Democrats, and reality, and come completely unhinged.

Also notice that both Petraeus and the officer behind him both leaned back and away as Lieberman made his proposal. The body languah said "whoa!"

Generally the military likes unconditional support from pols, but the real political maneuvering zealots and war mongers even scare them.

kozmik wrote on September 11, 2007 10:19 PM:

It's not anti-jewish to say Lieberman's main loyalty, and ideological underpinnings, are in allegiance to Israel and Zionism. Lieberman is a Zionist hawk. It's no joke to say he belongs ideologically in Likud and he always toes the Likud Party line.

That's not to generalize about Jews whatsoever. Lieberman specifically is another matter.

He's been a staunch vote for AIPAC and is often close to shady dealings and policy decisions regarding Israel and the ME. We've had Israeli infiltration of FP and Intelligence for decades. Just recently we had republican hawks passing intel to Israel. The NeoCons are almost all staunch Zionists whose ideology was formed in the post holocaust period, and who see a need for aggressive US involvement in the ME to shore up Israeli and essentially punish Arab states for old grudges. The rationalization is that what's good for Israel is good for the USA.

Syd B wrote on September 11, 2007 10:44 PM:

Joe Lieberman is a fetid bag of assholes if there ever was one.

Syd B wrote on September 11, 2007 10:56 PM:

Joe Lieberman is a fetid bag of assholes and the anti-Semitic slurs are growing old.

Not being able to discuss the Israeli lobby is now the third rail of US politics.

aeogia wrote on September 11, 2007 11:02 PM:

Gore will nebver be forgivien (in my book) for picking this zionist weasel for a running mate...

The "Dear Uncle Sap, kindly fight the Arabs for us" campaign seems to be going splendidly. God knows what he maniacs have for us next...

Check out my letter from Bush to bin Laden asking for help. Published this week in a western NC weekly (Smoky Mountain News)it's received a very favorable response. Maybe there's hope:

http://aeogia.com/html/politics.html#dearosama

Jackie Broyles for President

aeogia wrote on September 11, 2007 11:03 PM:

Gore will nebver be forgivien (in my book) for picking this zionist weasel for a running mate...

The "Dear Uncle Sap, kindly fight the Arabs for us" campaign seems to be going splendidly. God knows what these maniacs have for us next...

Check out my letter from Bush to bin Laden asking for help. Published this week in a western NC weekly (Smoky Mountain News)it's received a very favorable response. Maybe there's hope:

http://aeogia.com/html/politics.html#dearosama

Jackie Broyles for President

bjobotts wrote on September 11, 2007 11:20 PM:

You know, everyone hates Jerusalem Hoe. I can't stand to even hear his whinny little authoritarian voice. Bush/Cheney and Lieberman have done everything they can think of to provoke a war with Iran. Taking ships into Iranian waters and threatening them, producing ammunition and blaming Iranians only to find a factory in Iraq producing it, sending covert operations across the border blowing up bridges and other sites, threatening war rhetoric at every opportunity even though Iran offered to help with the reconstruction in 2003 sending an ignored email vial messenger to the state department which laid on Rice's desk.
This was yet another attempt by Jerusalem Joe to see if he could get some war talk going on Iran. I wish someone would just give ole mealey mouth Joe a gun and put him on the border with Iran and let him do his own killing. How anyone could vote for this pathetic creature is truly amazing. Jerusalem Joe has got to go. Such an embarrassment to our nation.

Wes wrote on September 11, 2007 11:29 PM:

If I were from Connecticut I would be looking into how to recall LIEberman. What an embarrassment!

ShorelineCT wrote on September 11, 2007 11:41 PM:

Oh boy, now I can write to LIEberman and suggest that he switch to being a registerd Republican AGAIN!

My dirtbag Senator can not be "recalled" or anything like that since he holds a federal position based on the US Constitution. As much as this hurts, we have him being "important" only until the next election when the Dems take over more of those 22 R seats up for grabs.

IMO, even if TPM fully backed Lamont, it would not have made a difference. Republican money in his pockets and total lack of support for the nominated R gave him a leg up to lie (many)his way into office. "No one wants our troops out of Iraq more than I do" was uttered from Joe's lips near the end of the race. Joe's long ties to CT pols lead many people, including the Speaker of the CT house, to side with Sour Joe. And for many, an incumbant name is simply better than the others.

Now he keeps using his platforms to back the "lite war" with Iran over what is estimated to be 130 odd American deaths the US military has estimated that Iran agents have caused. Well then, let's double down! NOT.

StephenH wrote on September 11, 2007 11:47 PM:

LIEberman's war mongering is all the more nausiating because at the same time that he advocates the most bloodthirsty foreign policy since Curtis LaMay wanted a pre-emtive strike on the USSR, he whines incessantly about anyone who disagrees with him, calling them overly partisain.

It's not that he's Jewish - there's many great and patriotic Jewish statesmen/women in our govenment, and there always has been. It's that he seems so eager to use American lives as cannon fodder for what he MISTAKENLY interprets as being in Israel's best interest.

LIEberman is too vain and spiteful to admit that the best role that America could play for Israel is the traditional role it has always played (before Bush) as an honest broker for peace. If America follows his advice and stirs up a holy war in the Middle East, Isreal as we know it is finnished.

Uncle_Meat wrote on September 12, 2007 12:09 AM:

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT):

(Israel-by-way-of-Connecticut)

Jewey Jewerton wrote on September 12, 2007 12:10 AM:

Someone please tell Joe to go away. Do we really have five more years of this loser?

jwerner wrote on September 12, 2007 12:25 AM:

Vote Ron Paul. Bring troops home now!!!!
Stop the military industrial complex from bankrupting our nation.

turtleguy wrote on September 12, 2007 12:44 AM:

I don't get this at all. You say, "It's not that he's Jewish - there's many great and patriotic Jewish statesmen/women in our govenment, and there always has been," as if that somehow is evidence that Lieberman doesn't put Israeli interest ahead of US interest. NOBODY has said there aren't "many great and patriotic Jewish statesmen/women in our govenment." Nobody has said there aren't great Jewish Americans dedicated to the health of our country. Nobody has said there shouldn't be Jewish lobbies that can lobby on behalf of Jewish Americans. But just because most Jewish lawmakers put US interest ahead of Israeli interest doesn't mean that Joe does.

It would help if people stopped throwing out strawmen to distract from the fact that Lieberman reliably comes down on the side of the main Jewish lobbyists. Maybe it's because he's Jewish or maybe it's because he receives a ton of money from those groups. I suspect it's both. Either way, he reliably does WHATEVER those groups want, even when it's seemingly in the worst interest of the US.

This is simple, so drop the strawmen, please.

wingsnthings wrote on September 12, 2007 12:59 AM:

One has to wonder just what neo-cons like Lieberman have swimming in their heads.

I don't buy that the fool has either Americas or Isreal's interests at heart. Neither us nor them can possibly benefit from aggression and war.

Anonymous wrote on September 12, 2007 1:10 AM:

workaday joe:

The difference between Liberman and the moderate ( rational) Republican Arlin Spector, who is also Jewish is that I cannot ever recall Spector acting as a mindless shill for Isreal in cases where American interests should come first. Opening another front with Iran is in Isreal's interest, not America's. Remember Saddam's experience with Iran. He started a war that he assured his country would be short. A few years later Saddam sued for peace and Iran said - no way you started this you finish it. It was a quagmire that lasted , i think, for about 8 years.

Freedoms Friend wrote on September 12, 2007 2:25 AM:

If I write and complain against Italian policy or someone who supports them am I therefore anti- Catholic no one in their right mind would say so! State one word against Israel; and you are forever branded as antisemitic, it is beyond reason.
9/11 is starting to look like the holocaust in the way that is being used to give people reason to hate other people whoever the current leaders choose to have hated i,e, Iraq who had nothing to do with 9/11 and next Iran who also had no involvement, then Syria and so on! This whole era of death and maiming is all about the perceived security of Israel. America your children are dying for foreign interests.

Nancy Irving wrote on September 12, 2007 2:35 AM:

Lieberman is now to the right of Bush.

Anonymous wrote on September 12, 2007 2:40 AM:

Liberman is not a Democrat, he is not an American....he is bought and paid for by the Jewish lobby. Israel means more to him than the USA and he is willing to use us for Israel, our lives, our treasury, and our power.

The war crimes committed by Israel and the USA mean nothing to him, hundreds of thousands of lives only count if Hitler kills them.

He is a blot on Democrats, but most of all he is a blot on the human race.

tim welsh wrote on September 12, 2007 2:49 AM:

When Joe Lieberman does the bidding of the far-right Israeli Likud Party he is betraying America.
Israel wanted Saddam gone, and now they want Iran destroyed, and they use American Jews like Joe Lieberman to get their dirty work done for them. If we go to war with Iran it will be the result pressure from Jews.
Ariel Sharon, speaking on Kol Yisrael radio said “we control the Americans, and they know it”

Tim Welsh wrote on September 12, 2007 2:51 AM:

When Joe Lieberman does the bidding of the far-right Israeli Likud Party he is betraying America.
Israel wanted Saddam gone, and now they want Iran destroyed, and they use American Jews like Joe Lieberman to get their dirty work done for them. If we go to war with Iran it will be the result pressure from Jews.
Ariel Sharon, speaking on Kol Yisrael radio said “we control the Americans, and they know it”

all-skeptical wrote on September 12, 2007 2:59 AM:

Looking back on 2000. I wasn't happy about the outcome of the 2000 election but it looks like we would have had a VP wanting an ill fated war either way the cookie crumbled. Maybe things would have been different without all the no-bid contracts. Who knows.

all-skeptical wrote on September 12, 2007 2:59 AM:

Looking back on 2000. I wasn't happy about the outcome of the 2000 election but it looks like we would have had a VP wanting an ill fated war either way the cookie crumbled. Maybe things would have been different without all the no-bid contracts. Who knows.

Max-1 wrote on September 12, 2007 4:08 AM:

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I can honestly say that I'm glad Lieberman ISN'T the V.P. To think I thought he was qualified...

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don slack wrote on September 12, 2007 4:45 AM:

What no one has bothered to point out is that it's far from clear that Lieberman's positions are, in fact, in Israel's interest. Joementum certainly thinks they are, but a great deal of Jewish people, inside and outside of Israel, think otherwise. Some people think that it might not be good for Israel to expose even more young men and women in the Middle East to Western bombs. Go figure.

Saying that Joe Lieberman is "first and foremost Jewish" in the midst of a post critical of him implies that being first and foremost Jewish is a bad thing.

It's perfectly possible for a person to be first and foremost Jewish, and to act in what he believes to be Israel's interests, America's interests, the interests of Jewish people, and the interests of the whole world, by OPPOSING war with Iran.

The problem with Joe has nothing to do with his religion and what prominence it plays in his life, and everything to do with his politics. Criticize him for being Likud — a political party — if you wish. Don't criticize his religion.

A few more comments:
° There's no such thing as a "Jewish lobby".
° And, "If we go to war with Iran it will be the result pressure from Jews."??? Sure, some Jews will have been applying pressure to go to war with Iran. And many Jews will have been opposing that war. Just as some Christians and some atheists will have been beating the war-drums, and some Christians and some atheists will have been opposing the war.

Frebnedzo wrote on September 12, 2007 5:09 AM:

What is anti-semetic is to tar all Israelis/Jews/Zionists with the PNAC plans which Joe is continuing to expound. PNAC (US hegemony and big oil) and some Likudniks may have their schemes aligned, but there ARE (as in the US) those who knew that the invasion of Iraq was Emiprical overreach on the US part and would make the world (and especially the neighborhood the Israelis live in) a more dangerous place AND that a fight with Iran will do more of the same. (For those who did not guess, I am two of the three categories above, and am not a Jew).

Bush Bites wrote on September 12, 2007 5:18 AM:

When can we kick that "General Patton with Loafers and a Fanny Pack" out of the party?

Anonymous wrote on September 12, 2007 6:43 AM:

To be precise, Lieberman is a ZIONIST, regardless of his religion or race. "Neocon" is code for "Zionist."

While the Likud agents on message boards try to conflate any discussion of The Zionist Agenda (the creation of ERETZ ISRAEL), with "anti-Semisitm," this is simply a tactic to prevent all truth telling.

Joe Lieberman is absolutely an agent of Likud and the Zionist Agenda. Google"Eretz Israel" to learn the true Zionist Agenda, and then it will be clear to you why AIPAC is bribing and blackmailing ever elected official to do its bidding, using your blood and treasure.

Cee wrote on September 12, 2007 6:47 AM:

Holy Joe also wants to attack Syria. He got his wish. Israel bombed them LAST WEEK!!

Imagine if Syria had flown over Israel and dropped a bomb.

Why hasn't this been addressed on the front page of this blog?

I agree with others here. Joe represents the interests of the rabid right in Israel.

moondancer wrote on September 12, 2007 8:53 AM:

Yes, anon@6:43 makes the correct point. Lieberman is a Zionist, an extreme Zionist. I think his advocacy borders on treason. He puts the interests of another nation before ours, contrary to his sworn duty.
Does Connecticutt have a recall law on the books? Republican Governor or not I think this guy should be removed from office.

David wrote on September 12, 2007 9:19 AM:

I don't pretend to know his motives. I would disagree with anyone who thinks a U.S. attack on Iran would benefit Israel or anyone else, especially at this moment in time. But I agree with everyone who says that this guy is dangerous and possibly insane.
When he lost the primary and ran as an independent, he proved that nothing is more important to him than Joe Lieberman. Now it seems like he takes pleasure in "sticking it" to the Democrats, rather than attempting to use his position to accomplish anything positive or worthwhile. I only hope that this will be his last term in office.

marinemomof3 wrote on September 12, 2007 9:36 AM:

We can yap all we want at the outrage on Lieberman's statement or....

we can call:
One Constitution Plaza
7th Floor
Hartford, CT 06103
(860) 549-8463 Voice
(800) 225-5605 In CT
(860) 549-8478 Fax

706 Hart Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
(202) 224-4041 Voice
(202) 224-9750 Fax

He must get a lot of calls, I have never seen a Senator with 'voice'.

fobl wrote on September 12, 2007 9:40 AM:

LieMan's venomous mind has spilled into his body causing him to become as ugly on the outside; it is a modern day version of "The Picture of Dorian Gray." One cannot bear to look at and listen to the monster that has consumed him.

fobo wrote on September 12, 2007 9:47 AM:

LieMan is another "Dorian Gray."
It is truly heinous to view either of them.

Dansden wrote on September 12, 2007 10:33 AM:

If anyone needs proof that Republican senators lie, LIEbermann is PROOF! He can't help it, to turn a phrase of Ms. Ann from Texas, he was born with silver knife around his penis-Jewish.....

Has anyone reminded Joey that his pledge of oath was to America and not to Israel as a senator?....

Dansden wrote on September 12, 2007 10:34 AM:

If anyone needs proof that Republican senators lie, LIEbermann is PROOF! He can't help it, to turn a phrase of Ms. Ann from Texas, he was born with silver knife around his penis-Jewish.....

Has anyone reminded Joey that his pledge of oath was to America and not to Israel as a senator?....

Marc wrote on September 12, 2007 10:51 AM:

For those who think they're not being anti-semitic when claiming that Lieberman, who has devoted his life to government service, is loyal to Israel at the expense of the U.S., consider this:

Lieberman's foreign policy is nearly identical to McCain's. How come nobody ever accuses McCain of being an agent of Israel or putting Israel's interests first?

jwsub28 wrote on September 12, 2007 10:54 AM:

The people of Connecticut must be real proud electing this guy back in office. He really fooled you guys. He might as well change his party affiliation because even though he declared himself an independent, he has done nothing but share Republican interests since re-elected. Way to go Connecticut!

Sue Filutze wrote on September 12, 2007 10:57 AM:

Hey Joe how about you saddeling up your horse and go on over to Israel and get the party started without us. I believe they may even let you fire a rocket or something, that will really get you excieted. Always the WAR monger, I think we need to send him and Lindsey and McCain on another rug shopping tour of Baghdad.

Tony wrote on September 12, 2007 10:58 AM:

What Lieberman, has forgotten to realize, is that Iran has a large Jewish community.

thinker wrote on September 12, 2007 11:00 AM:

Lieberman may be an idiot - as many of you posting seem to claim. But he's in good company if he is as most US politicians can righty be called idiots, or much worse.

If you had taken the time to LISTEN to the exchange in the video clip as opposed to just HEARING what was said (LISTEN = HEARING + THINKING, hence hearing = listening MINUS thinking), you would have heard Lieberman asking Petraeus's opinion on whether his own intelligence staff's opinions warranted 'hot pursuit' of Iranian elements alleged to be active participants in the training and supply of Iraqi 'insurgents' (or 'patriots' if you'd care to frame things in terms of 1776).

In part the question was designed to measure Petraeus's temper on the issue, and to gauge whether he had sufficient respect of his consitutional role to be subservient to the political process which defines whether or not this stinking war is broadened.

There was nothing evil or misguided in the question Lieberman asked. It was a proper question to ask of the man on the ground who could, if he chose to act preciptiously, issue commands to cross the border into Iran claiming 'hot pursuit', thereby broadening this pointless war.

One last thing to all those who have attacked Lieberman for his religion and smeared him with allegations of having his first allegience to Israel rather than the US - had the question been asked by Sen. John Warner would you all have been so filled with bile? Any member of the Senate panel could, and should have asked that very same question.

Ron Eckley wrote on September 12, 2007 11:03 AM:

Check your history - it is not just Joe who is the problem - look at the number of right wing evangelists that attacked the first George Bush for working on peace in the middle east and not giving full support to Israel. Same for Jimmy Carter. Be careful what you say - I don't agree with Joe, but I do agree with his right to say it without attacks on his religion.

BlackCoffee wrote on September 12, 2007 11:30 AM:

Discussion of AIPAC is certainly valid, but there is another foreign power playing this hand. The Saudis would certainly like to see Iran taken out. Dry up oil production in Iraq and Iran, and what happens to oil prices?

National security interests have been disregarded on all sides by money interests. Where is all this blood flowing from? Follow the money!

fastfeat wrote on September 12, 2007 11:39 AM:

On the eve of the High Holy Days, Lieberman makes me embarrassed to be of the same religion. How about a little atonement Joe??

Richard wrote on September 12, 2007 11:47 AM:

Does this guy ride the Jewish agenda...or what.
One day this country will come to it's senses and realize that America is run by a bunch special interest idiots...............PERIOD

Lloyd Walsh wrote on September 12, 2007 11:58 AM:

You got it wrong ............ Liebeerman is only for Lieberman.

gdkzen wrote on September 12, 2007 12:21 PM:

A large majority of Connecticut residents really dislike Joe Lieberman. The problem is that there has not been a truly palatable alternative in Connecticut.

Ned Lamont was a great guy, but his obvious lack of experience and disinterest on any issue other than Iraq made him an unattractive candidate in the general election.

I'm from Fairfield County, so we have the double disgrace of Lieberman and Shays. Both are entrenched in years of power gathering and almost impossible to unseat.

I can't predict the future, but if the democrats gather more seats in 2008, I can see Lieberman being told to take a hike by the Democratic leadership in the Senate (they need his vote for majority now, but as soon as it's not a requirement, he'll be stripped of his seniority). He'll either retire or he'll be quickly replaced by his next competitor (voters won't like that he threw away his commitee seniority just so he could vote with republicans on unpopular foreign policy opinions)

I want Weicker back

Angry Kike wrote on September 12, 2007 12:35 PM:

Fast Feat and all the rest of you bigots,

When Dick Cheney wants to bomb Iran he is criminally insane. When Joe Lieberman wants to bomb Iran he is a Jew and therefore a traitor.

Criticize Israel's policies all you want. There's nothing anti-semitic about it. You think all of us Jews think the same? As part of my "Jewish Agenda" I criticize Israel all the time.

But if you question the loyalties of an asshole senator because of his religion-ethnicity, then yes, it's anti-semitism. Keep hiding in the anonimity on comments boards you cowards.

Erik wrote on September 12, 2007 1:23 PM:

If he wants to go to Iran so badly, I'll buy him the one-way ticket myself.

Erik wrote on September 12, 2007 1:24 PM:

If he wants to go to Iran so badly, I'll buy him the one-way ticket myself.

ThrillHammer wrote on September 12, 2007 1:58 PM:

I'm from Connecticut, and we're sorry. I've got no excuse for this windbag. He doesn't bother trying to hide it anymore, his loyalty clearly lies with Israel, it's as simple as that.

jwsub28 wrote on September 12, 2007 3:53 PM:

I'm glad to see the people that have posted from Connecticut are sick of this man. You always have a choice. Maybe Ned Lamont wasn't as experienced as you might have liked but look at the alternative. Joe is a thorn in everyone's ass now. He likes the power that he has. Just do the right thing next time and vote him out! I live in Texas so I do what I can. It is extremely frustrating to live here and know that my vote does not count. I am doing my part by trying to spread the unjust decision to go to war and Bush's agenda from the start. He is such a disgrace but down here in good ole boy land some people still love him. Look at my represenatives: John Cornyn and Kate Hutchinson,Ted Poe, Please these people love George W. Bush and they vote with him everytime. It is so frustrating but I keep voting. Hopefully people down here will realize that Bush is not GOD. They tend to love that religious stuff down here. They truly believe that Bush got his calling from GOD. God is talking to him right now. I wonder if God told him to tell us the other day that "we are kicking ass in Iraq". What an ignorant fool, but General P and Ambass. Crocker told Bush wanted us to know. The surge is working, and since it is working so well, Joe from Connecticut would love to see us in Iran also. I feel like I am in a bad movie, when will it all end???

Jim Coughlin wrote on September 12, 2007 10:05 PM:

Ct.cannot get rid of schizo Joe for another five years, but please do us all a favor and kick Shays
ass out next year. 14 trips to Iraq and he says we might be developing a problem over there? Mike Pence , McCain and others are equally blind but in New England we ought to elect somebody with half a brain. In 2008 hopefully we will have a majority in the senate and Reid had better throw Joe under the bus. It troubles me to remember Bill Clinton with his arm around Joe, he and a few Democrats in the Senate who tacitly backed Joe by refusing to come out for their party's candidate. So much for party loyalty, looking out for their own ass comes first!

H.D. Cole wrote on September 13, 2007 5:18 AM:

I like Finegold VERY much, Boxer not so much, Dodd is starting to impress the hell out of me. As for LIE-berman he and AIPAC should be regestard as foreign agents. Then again lets look at what BUSH CRIME FAMILY did for the Osma Bin Laden family days after 9/11. these people in power is destroying MY COUNTRY AND I DO NOT LIKE IT ONE BIT. One more comment Maxcine Walters has my attention I think she is like Feingold.

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