Comments (43)

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 10:57 AM:

GO CONDOLEEZZA!!! Hopefully, she's got a tazer with her this time, bro!

SeeDee wrote on October 25, 2007 11:23 AM:

GO JAKE D!!! Hopefully, this time you'll make a bigger ass of yourself than is normal for you...and that's REALLY GOING!!!

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 11:28 AM:

Thanks for the support!

brian wrote on October 25, 2007 11:40 AM:

Poor Ms Rice - she is a very bad manager. State must be a complete mess by now.

To her credit : she is still in her job ! Cheney has not arranged to push her out yet. That is amazing.

Dennis wrote on October 25, 2007 11:49 AM:

Rice has blood on her hands just like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales and a host of "in house" and "out house" White House supporters.

The Iraq war was a contrived war before 9/11 - as was the spying on Americans begun before 9/11.

The sad thing is that no one in high places will ever be held accountable for any of it.

But if anything would booster the esteem of America throughout the world, it would be that America tried and convicted its own war criminals.

For that matter, they could be tried just for crimes against the government.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

Tross wrote on October 25, 2007 11:52 AM:

Jake D,

I take from your exuberance that you find something laudable about the head of the State Dept. either bungling her job or obstructing investigations in such a way that US troops continue to die and innocent Iraqis continue to be murdered while you play "keyboard commando".

Or maybe this is just fun for you since neither you nor anyone you know is in harm's way.

Btw, if you even think about responding that you do know someone fighting in the war, keep in mind that such a response will be an even more damning indictment of your previous excited utterances.

Saint Augustine wrote on October 25, 2007 11:55 AM:

I must confess that I was intrigued that Republican John Duncan brought up the issue of the concern of money for services at home versus empire around the world.

Sorta sounds like a couple of ball teams, the home team Services and the visiting Empires. One side pitches hard balls and the other lobs soft balls. Who ya rooting for?

Tom wrote on October 25, 2007 11:59 AM:

Jake D is a routine poster over at Think Progress.org. He is always on the other side of sanity (the wrong side) and his posts are just cut and paste jobs of limbaugh, hannity, coulter, malkin, and others words.

Don't count on Jake D to offer anything of substance, and his words will make you weep for America. He is part of the 24%r's longing for a king to make him feel secure and safe.

At TP (Think Progress) we normally just ignore him, as that makes him find another forum to harass. His words are treasonous and worthy of nothing.

heh wrote on October 25, 2007 12:05 PM:

Ever hear anyone from the black community claim Condi Rice as one of them; in the spirit of Martin L. King?

Of course not, and with good reason. She's silently one of those oreos.

but she talks a good game, better than her bosses. She is trying to keep hoping for diplomacy for Iran, and for that Cheney isn't happy with her, but at this juncture I doubt she's going to get the boot.

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 12:06 PM:

Ouch, Tom. I guess the following words are treasonous then: "GO HILLARY!!!"

martin wrote on October 25, 2007 12:11 PM:

Condoleeza Rice, continuing the proud tradition of not knowing what's going on under your nose.

Anonymous wrote on October 25, 2007 12:16 PM:

how come rice didn't just plead the 5th? isn't that what jesus would have done?

Dennis wrote on October 25, 2007 12:17 PM:

"[Condi Rice]talks a good game, better than her bosses. She is trying to keep hoping for diplomacy for Iran, and for that Cheney isn't happy with her, but at this juncture I doubt she's going to get the boot."

What she's shaking for is being found out for her own complicity in war crimes.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

Tom wrote on October 25, 2007 12:21 PM:

Ouch, Tom. I guess the following words are treasonous then: "GO HILLARY!!!"

Thanks for the laugh! I am not sure how many personalities live in your head, but the one shouting "Go Hillary!" is new to me. Do you name all those personalities, or do they just appear when they want to? And if the "Go Hillary!" personality is starting to be a major force amoungst the others, please do try and encourage it. As it is, I'll just say "Hi" to all of them. I hope they are all doing well. Cheers!

neo1 wrote on October 25, 2007 12:27 PM:

That's Secretary Gonzoleezza to you!

MP wrote on October 25, 2007 12:29 PM:

Jake D.,

I did want to take a moment to congratulate you on your firm grasp of both grammar and spelling. It's so refreshing to find a parrot for right wing talking points that can express those points without massacring the language.

You, sir, art truly a savant among cretins!

In admiration,
MP

BS Detector wrote on October 25, 2007 12:36 PM:

This is the same woman that was confidently able to state, within hours, that "miles of documents" (then) just found in Iraq regarding intentions to create weapons of mass destruction related programs absolutely justified the invasion and occupation.

Yet here, the miles of documents form the kind of physical obstacle that obliterates her previous x-ray vision and speed reading superpower. Where do we send Sec'y "Algernon" her flowers?

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 12:48 PM:

I am in idiot without a Job

Austin Cooper wrote on October 25, 2007 12:50 PM:

This government is filled, well past bursting, with persons who hotly defend their honest and integrity, and with so little reason. Rice is near the top of the list.

There's no reason to expect honesty from those incapable of it.

My observation of Ris is that she has consistently appeared to be a brittle, sanctimonious, and hypocritical servant of her own hubris. Her personality is abrasive and controling, and from what I've read and heard she's not pleasant to work for.

That she participated in fabricating lies to provide an excuse for an utterly unnecessary invasion of Iraq is a matter of record. As Secretary of State, Rice has done little more than continue to cover Cheney / Bush's actions, to the detriment of the interests of the People of the United States. My opinion, but she's an unindicted war criminal.

Her previous few appearances before any Congressional body have been marked by her demand to control the discussion, and to bristle at the slightest suggestion that her "integrity" would be "impugned" -- as she said during the 9-11 Commission hearings... and, she *never* answers the questions. Why should anyone be surprised?

As a liar, as a person hired to create excuses for the criminality of others as well as her own, Rice is ultimately a pathetic figure -- but, the Fall of Empire is always escorted on stage by players like her.

tgr wrote on October 25, 2007 12:52 PM:

Waxman didn't get it. She was using the "royal we."

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 1:02 PM:

Thank you, MP (please don't hold the fake Jake at 12:48 PM against me -- unless she's attractive and blonde, that is ; )

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 1:05 PM:

See, what you guys don't understand is Republicans think it is an honor to lie to Congress. Sort of like earning that Cub Scout Badge for whittling.

Tom wrote on October 25, 2007 1:19 PM:

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 1:05 PM:
See, what you guys don't understand is Republicans think it is an honor to lie to Congress. Sort of like earning that Cub Scout Badge for whittling.

And how is this good for our Constitution and America? Is it Ok to lie if you support your king? Who is in charge: The laws of the land or our delusional president?

footsore wrote on October 25, 2007 1:20 PM:

Hey Jake D.
Ya mean like whittling away at the truth?
footosre

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 1:22 PM:

Tom:

That was another fake Jake at 1:05 PM.

Fred Daniel wrote on October 25, 2007 1:23 PM:

Submitted for your disapproval, one Jake D, a small, inconsequential retired man looking to fill those long, empty hours of quiet desperation. As a result, he whiles away his time trolling internet message boards with his sad, silly little posts. And what does Jahe D. get for his efforts? Not only does he stave off boredom, but he also gets the attention he clearly craves -- albeit as a pathetic freak show attraction, but, hey, lonely men can't be choosy.

Noam Sane wrote on October 25, 2007 1:33 PM:

No one could have predicted that Maliki would learn the art of obstruction from watching the Bush administration in action.

altoid wrote on October 25, 2007 1:33 PM:

Meanwhile, Jake D. has hijacked the thread and deep-sixed the original point under discussion. Trolls earn their money.

Back to the original topic: Rice is another asshole in a legion of assholes. No surprise when she acts true to form.

Tom wrote on October 25, 2007 1:33 PM:

Tom:
That was another fake Jake at 1:05 PM.

Just how many "fake Jakes" are out there? Do you all belong to a club or is it just a once in a while get together? It is getting difficult to keep track of who to insult :) I do enjoy the banter though.

loudocracy wrote on October 25, 2007 1:38 PM:

Y'all are so wrong about Jake. He/she most certainly does have a job, and it is getting paid to troll here and elsewhere making us less effective in discussing abuses such as Condi's testimony. I'm sure it's well worth the money. We'all should be ingoring trolls not feeding them.

Anonymous wrote on October 25, 2007 1:43 PM:

loudocracy wrote on October 25, 2007 1:38 PM:
Y'all are so wrong about Jake. He/she most certainly does have a job, and it is getting paid to troll here and elsewhere making us less effective in discussing abuses such as Condi's testimony. I'm sure it's well worth the money. We'all should be ingoring trolls not feeding them

Somebody gets paid to be a pain in the @ss? How much? I can be a pain too, for the right amount of money. Jake: how much does the RNC pay you to bother this post? Is it enough to pay for your childrens health care? Maybe you could use S-chip?

Jake D. wrote on October 25, 2007 1:47 PM:

O.K., so which one am I then: (a) RETIRED small, inconsequential little man, or (b) NOT RETIRED with a highly-paid job derailing the most important of all liberal blogs out there?

WizardSleeve wrote on October 25, 2007 2:04 PM:

I think we can all agree that anyone who still supports anything about this administration is politically retarded and shouldn't be listened to.

It's like someone who insists that 2+2=5 and yet demands that their mathematical abilities be respected. Ummm - no, when you can't make the simplest equations work I don't, in fact, have to consider you a good source of information on mathematics.

And yet morons like Bill Kristol still manage to pop up on places like Fox, CNN, and even NPR from time to time to run their mouths and make the rest of us that much dumber.

We should ignore the politically retarded.

Dennis wrote on October 25, 2007 2:23 PM:

Having the remarks of Bill Kristol on any program or in any publication lets you know just how low things can get.

He's just a male Ann Coulter.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

mjshep wrote on October 25, 2007 2:35 PM:

The question remains, what is the defining characteristic of Secretary Rice, liar or incompetent? I know it's hard, but just pick one. Saying "lying incompetent" is not allowed under the rules.

broadsword wrote on October 25, 2007 2:38 PM:

Derailing? Jake, you seem like a criminal idiot.

So, in your crowd, breaking the law is OK, just so long as you do it with adequate sanctimony?

Get. This. Straight.

We as a country are entitled under the law for answers from our leaders. Period.

Your party saw fit to abrogate its responsibilities to the country in this regard while holding power in Congress.

Well, no more.

Austin Cooper wrote on October 25, 2007 3:15 PM:

So, other than allow little Jakey, the phony veteran and false-argument dissemenator, to dominate the comments section -- what has everyone accomplished here today?

I mean, Jakey's getting his paycheck, and a little self-stimulatory 'frisson' out of it... what are we getting when we pay attention to him except spin wheels?

Jakey purpose is to turn any discussion or expression of Left-opinion into a thread that's really all about him... and when criticized, his claims of having his free speech violated, and how it's so intolerant here in Left blogtopia.

So far, this thread is all about Jake --and not about the issue of a lying, dissembling and obfuscating Secretary of State.

lestatdelc wrote on October 25, 2007 7:39 PM:

Ugh.. I see the human turd named Jake D is sh*tting up a different blog now. Got tired of getting your ass handed to you on a plate and exposing yourself as the foul, bigoted moron you are over at ThinkProgress and decided to vomit your infantile bile here?

greg wrote on October 25, 2007 7:40 PM:

I have to say I've come to admire Condi, in a grim sort of way, for her efforts to put a dignified face on the Bush foreign policy fiasco. No matter what, she puts a "we've-thought-this-through, it's-all-under-control" veneer onto the most hapless, haphazard, fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants operation I've ever seen. She's truly indefatigable. She never breaks character, no matter how ridiculous it gets.

lestatdelc wrote on October 25, 2007 7:48 PM:

mjshep I would have to go with liar. Since she has no problem playing CYA and rope-a-dope to cover the utter incompetence of this administration. Not simple incompetence at executing government action in a responsible way (Katrina response for example) but for profound world-view incompetence. Like invading a secular nation and blow it to shit thinking you would be welcomed as liberators and transform the ME.

Such a move means you either commit genocide or plant the seeds for your own failure.

roger wrote on October 25, 2007 8:40 PM:

Although one can't fault Waxman for investigating the macro-mismanagement of the State Department, I have been astonished by the pass given to the State Department - and in particular, Margaret Scobey - for acting as accomplices in the murder of Maliki's bodyguard last Christmas by Blackwater employee, Andrew J. Moonen. We've known since the beginning of this month that Moonen murdered the man in cold blood. We've known since the beginning of this month that he was not charged with any crime. We've known since the beginning of the month that the State Department actively contrived for him to escape, and then covered up even the small black mark in his record, thus allowing him to be hired again by a security company in Kuwait. Even in D.C., even in the post Scooter Libby era, there should be some appetite for investigating this. It counts as a high crime.

It is a symptom of the fact that neither of the political parties is worth a bucket of spit - and they are about as different as two buckets of spit - that nothing has happened. Rarely has America seen such a nasty, toadeating group of nonentities as those who sit in Congress and the Executive branch at the moment. But let's
refresh our memories about what the State department did, some paragraphs from the NYT story about the murder, on Oct. 1:

"A Blackwater USA employee under investigation in the killing last December of an Iraqi bodyguard in an off-duty confrontation was so drunk after fleeing the shooting that another group of guards took away the loaded pistol he was fumbling with, a report to a House committee said Monday.

The guards, employees of Triple Canopy, another private military contractor, returned the weapon to the Blackwater employee, who smelled of alcohol, and escorted him away from their guard post in the fortified Green Zone, the report said. Shortly afterward, the police detained the man, a 26-year-old firearms technician whom the report did not name, at the Blackwater camp inside the Green Zone, but determined he was too intoxicated to be interviewed.

Within 36 hours, the report said, Blackwater fired the man for possessing a firearm while drunk and arranged with the State Department to fly him back to the United States, angering Iraqi officials who said the Christmas Eve shooting was murder.

The acting ambassador at the United States Embassy in Baghdad suggested that Blackwater apologize for the shooting and pay the dead Iraqi man’s family $250,000, lest the Iraqi government bar Blackwater from working there, the report said. Blackwater eventually paid the family $15,000, according to the report, after an embassy diplomatic security official complained that the “crazy sums” proposed by the ambassador could encourage Iraqis to try to “get killed by our guys to financially guarantee their family’s future.”

The report did not identify the acting ambassador, but a State Department spokesman, Karl Duckworth, said it was Margaret Scobey."

Try Moonen for murder. Try Scobey for accessory after the fact.

RW Spisak wrote on October 25, 2007 10:34 PM:

I watched Ms. Rice, preen and flutter for more than two hours, It was like watching someone tiptoes through a mine field, while the repub, threw her toadstool, after toadstool to help her across all that muck.
Huge misplaced funds, not a prob, she's got a bigger fish to fry. Problems with the Embassy, that Congress had just been assured was coming along fine... Don't you worry your precious little over sight committee's for. Dead friendly Iraqi's shot by our side... oops she doesn't pay attention to dead little Iraqi details like that. Problem with sneakin murderers out of dodge before our soverign client state even noticed? Hell we commmit bigger war crimes than tha before breakfast. NO OUR MISSING MONEY.. won't wind up arming the militia's (which side any side?) But there's just so much she has to avoid talking about... while the repubicans once again remind us, there have been no casualties while the mercenaries have been on the job, no casualties except american honor, oh, and a few, friendly iraqis... But thats OK, when our embassy staff suggested a couple hundred grand in hush money... the kids over at black water, just added some carrying charges and instead of the 250 grand they billed the embassy for they just raked $235,000 off the top, carrying charges and passed the rest to the grieving iraqi families. But her ability to avoid the puddles of manure and blood left all over iraq certainly establishes her credentials as a BUSH-LEAGUE Diplomat.

Please can I hear it again, there have been no casualties while POISONOUS GREY WATER has been guarding American Public Servants... (subtext) WATCH IT!

solidarity & peas

johnsnottoodistracted wrote on October 25, 2007 10:36 PM:

Wondering if it's worth note: she has been taking orders for over 15 years.
As usual eveyone is lost in the distraction/s.
The point is: over 5 trillion $$ is in the ground and this mob is going to get it and keep the profits.
One more note: as the price of sludge keeps going up has anyone remembered how this all is going to make the situation stable????
Or was that lost in the cess pool too?
One thing for sure: these guys can generate some toxic sewage for mass consumption and the media eats it up.