Ron Arteno
- : Calif.
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- : Ind.
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- : My son did two tours of Iraq. We lost his best buddy 4/2/03 along with 5 others in a Blackhawk over Karbala, Iraq. I can't let their sacrifice be for nothing like Hillary and Obama want.
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Ah, ya picked up on anger, eh? How observant of you. Freedom isn't Free, Peace isn't Free. Your not entitled, it's earned. Peace and Freedom will only materialize through strength and that’s a human fact true throughout history. Thank God we have Hero's willing to volunteer to face the threat. They re-up time and time again so you can have the right to criticize their sacrifice. I'm not Republican. I prefer my tax money to defend your right to an opinion. I'm a Union employee and nearly retired. My son did two tours of Iraq. We lost his best Friend over there, so I know sacrifice. Yes, I'm angry. Sick and tired of big mouths over here emboldening the true enemy. So stay in your boober corner and don't talk to me. Anybody else wanna take a swing?
Posted at April 10, 2008 8:14 PM in response to Petraeus: "We're Not after The Holy Grail in Iraq"
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Go, patronize me. Ya, lets shift that money to pay for all the pork and entitlements we're due. Gotta have that Hippie museum in upstate New York for Hillary. Gotta pay for that illegal alien's education. Gotta pay for a lawyer for that terrorist who want's to murder you liberals for "ideaizing" about same sex marriage. Gotta pay those bonds so I can see my social security.
There's some patronizing muck back at ya, Judy.Posted at April 10, 2008 6:39 PM in response to Petraeus: "We're Not after The Holy Grail in Iraq"
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Like I said...you all see what you believe...GLOOM and DOOM...
"there IS no winning","The only choice we have", "... if we're going to kill ourselves, let's do it quickly", "inexcusable errors", "slow drain of blood and wealth", "force us into subservience", "see the agony", "Thank General Petraeus bullshit"...DEPRESSING and you are believing what you want to see. Your negativism has served to embolden this enemy and actually kill our Soldiers.
The Iraqi Government has met 4 of 6 benchmarks to date. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is challenging al Sadar and Iran's influence. The fact is the surge worked, the Government is improving and we will be out of there as Iraq is able to support itself. We cut a swath in the belly of the middle east that is an investment in our future that will pay back our treasury investment 100 fold. Your glass is 1/2 empty, mine is 1/2 full...just your point of view.
You treehuggers cause us to be dependent on middle east oil. We can't drill or process our rich reserves and we can't build Nuclear power to get rid of fossil fuel energy. Energy independence is the key answer to all of this.
You liberals give more of our treasury away to our criminals, deadbeats and illegal aliens to make sure they're comfortable and better educated and better medical than hardworking American's. We have to borrow money from China to pay your way. And this so called recession??? I look around and see a lot of spoiled liberals yaking in their cell phones in their brand new leased cars. This recession is really a correction due to NAFTA...a Clinton/Democratic policy.
So, you go ahead and waller in your muck...YUK! I choose to be positive and move forward.
Here's Muck in your eyes!!!!Posted at April 10, 2008 3:04 PM in response to Petraeus: "We're Not after The Holy Grail in Iraq"
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Liberals see what they believe.
Conservatives believe what they see.
I see the surge worked, political partries are working together, al-quida is defeated and Iraqi's love America and thankful for our liberation. You people can waller in your negative critisizm of this mission, but the bottom line is we are winning and is was worth the effort. History will prove all this and you'll all be just pissin in your mess kit.
Dwell on this..WE win, you loose.Posted at April 10, 2008 4:17 AM in response to Petraeus: "We're Not after The Holy Grail in Iraq"
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OK pardner...I'll be patient with you...Here's a little history lesson...
December 19, 2002
UNMOVIC Chairman Hans Blix tells UNSC members that the Iraqi weapons declaration filed on December 7 "is essentially a reorganized version" of information Iraq provided UNSCOM in 1997, and that it "is not enough to create confidence" that Iraq has abandoned its WMD efforts.
January, 2003
A statement released to various newspapers and signed by the leaders of Britain, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Poland, Denmark and the Czech Republic shows support for the US, saying that Saddam should not be allowed to violate U.N. resolutions. The statement goes on to say that Saddam is a "clear threat to world security," and urges Europe to unite with the United States to ensure that the Iraqi government is disarmed.January 27, 2003
Chairmen of the inspections effort report to the UN Security Council that, while Iraq has provided some access to facilities, concerns remain regarding undeclared material; inability to interview Iraqi scientists; inability to deploy aerial surveillance during inspections; and harassment of weapons inspectors.
February 26, 2003
Hans Blix states that Iraq still has not made a "fundamental decision" to disarm, despite recent signs of increased cooperation. Specifically, Iraq has refused to destroy its al-Samoud 2 long range missiles. (These are not a WMD, and Iraq is permitted "battlefield" missiles. However, Iraq's missiles were limited by UN instruction to a diameter of 600mm, and the Al-Samoud II has a diameter of 760mm). These missiles are deployed and mobile. Also, an R-400 aerial bomb was found that could possibly contain biological agents. Given this find, the UN Inspectors have requested access to the Al-Aziziyah weapons range to verify that all 155 R-400 bombs can be accounted for and proven destroyed. Blix also expresses skepticism over Iraq's claims to have destroyed its stockpiles of anthrax and VX nerve agent in Time magazine. Blix said he found it "a bit odd" that Iraq, with "one of the best-organized regimes in the Arab world," would claim to have no records of the destruction of these illegal substances. "I don't see that they have acquired any credibility," Blix said.
March 4, 2003
Iraq destroys three more Al Samoud 2 missiles, bringing to 19 the number Baghdad has crushed out of 100 ordered destroyed by the UN. Iraq also destroys a launcher and five engines in a rush to prove it is disarming before a crucial U.N. report on March 7. UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan calls the new actions "a positive development" while the White House remains unconvinced saying, "Despite whatever limited head-fakes Iraq has engaged in, they continue to fundamentally not disarm."
March 5, 2003
Two days before his scheduled update to the United Nations on Iraqi cooperation with inspection, Hans Blix credits Iraq with "a great deal more of cooperation now", although still expressing some skepticism as to whether or not the cooperation would continue. Among the examples of cooperation that he cites are Iraq's destruction of Samoud 2 missiles, which he calls "the most spectacular and the most important and tangible". He adds that "here weapons that can be used in war are being destroyed in fairly large quantities." In general, he states, "you have a greater measure of cooperation on interviews in general." These statements help to harden the opposition to the US-led war by several other Security Council members. Secretary of State Colin Powell says that US intelligence has indicated that Hussein has ordered the production of more Al Samoud 2 missiles parts and engines. The Iraqi government does not deny the claim but simply says once again that they considered the missiles to be legal. Powell also points out that Iraq has delivered "some documents that have not been found before"
Iraq destroys nine more Al Samoud 2 missiles, bringing to 28 the total number of missiles scrapped.
March 6, 2003
United States intelligence reports that the Iraqi government has ordered US military uniforms with plans of carrying out attacks on Iraqi citizens which would then be blamed on US soldiers. (Reuters) [6]
Iraqi exiles testify in Washington about the brutal crimes committed against Iraqi citizens by the Hussein government. One Iraqi woman says that the Iraqi people are "patiently waiting" for the US to liberate the country. Another woman says that war protesters are "ignorant and misinformed". [7]
Iraq flattens six more Al Samoud 2 missiles, meaning the country has now destroyed 34 of its known stock of 100 of the banned rockets."If it quacks like a Duck..."...we all took the bait, REMEMBER!!!!
And..."but the Pentagon report released this week says there were no pre-war operational links between iraq & al-qaeda" SEE WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!!!
It also said..."Other documents indicate that the Fedayeen Saddam opened paramilitary training camps that, starting in 1998, hosted "Arab volunteers" from outside Iraq. What happened to the non-Iraqi volunteerrs is unknown." (by Warren Strobel, McClatchy Newspapers, 3/11/07)...Ya ignored that because its not your agenda!!!!And..."because the ones who are simply fighting to get america out of their country count" your wrong again, the overall majority are foreign fighters!
"uh, it's not a popularity contest with the terrorists that i'm concerned about. it's a popularity contest with our allies..."
What is this? High School? SCREW any popularity contest!!!!
MUCKBACKATCHA...GOT PLENTY MORE...
Posted at March 14, 2008 11:45 PM in response to Pentagon Tries to Squelch Report Showing No Link Between Iraq-Al Qaeda
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*posed no threat...Come on...your lieing to yourself, or have a long term memory problem.
*popularity contest...Who gives a crap about popularity with terroriosts??? you???
*forced the enemy to expose themselves...We're killing 1500 a month, real bad guys!!!!
*muck your mouth and muck your eyes!@!!@
You see vpop, We go round and round. You think I'm a moron and and I'm convinced youz guyz are educated idiots and "IDEA-ATING" this for absolutely no gain. You spinning your wheels and going nowhere. Your waffeling kills our troops and innocents. You should be ashamed!!!
And your Roman tag is another joke! Roman's would have anniliated Baghdad with no question..."We came, we saw, we conqured".
Muck you..Posted at March 14, 2008 1:19 PM in response to Pentagon Tries to Squelch Report Showing No Link Between Iraq-Al Qaeda
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Youz guyz go ahead and banter the crap out of this. Typical liberal "go nowhere" vomit. Do ya really think you'll find something new? NOT!
Fact remains: The middle east was a seathing cauldrin of hate for your liberal morals. The invasion of Iraq cut a swath right up the belly of that beast, firmly entrenched Freedom and Democracy, forced the enemy to expose themselves, redefined and proved our Military is the best and capable of answering the terrorist challenge.
Why dance around 12,000 ft mountains that Russia proved were inpenetrable? Why not choose the battlefield?...Brilliant!!!
It's you people who haven't seen enough innocent's die. Your waffeling prolongs the effort and it will not stop at Barak or Hillary, only increase. Mark my words...The fat lady hasn't sang and you only embolden the terrorist effort. So, banter away, see what you believe. I will remain to throw muck right back at ya. I love to upset your apple cart.Posted at March 13, 2008 2:45 PM in response to Pentagon Tries to Squelch Report Showing No Link Between Iraq-Al Qaeda
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I'll challenge any angle you have "Conn. Man 1". There are no clear answers including "cut-n-run".
Any stat you throw at me, I can manipulate and counter, just like you. In 2002, most of wanted this invasion...even PBS's FRONTLINE ID'd Saddam as the #1 threat. We have to finish this, reguardless "why" we are there. There is ample evidence in this report to support the invasion, just depends on whether you see what you believe or believe what you see.
And, a Soldiers funeral isn't the best place to form an opinion. I know that, too. Don't get vague by saying "most". Sounds like another Democratic poll.
Soldiers lives are being wasted by emboldening the enemy with this waffeling. Finish this and get over yourself, Conn. man.Posted at March 13, 2008 12:29 AM in response to Pentagon Tries to Squelch Report Showing No Link Between Iraq-Al Qaeda
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I spent two weeks at Brook Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Tx. with my wounded son from an ambush near Taji, Iraq in 2006. I talked to scores of Soldiers...volunteers all. All are convinced why we are there and why we need to complete the mission. Its tough to complete a patrol with wounded and hear "cut and run" from our Democrats.
My point above is Saddam was a threat and worthy target...that's what the majority of us thought in 2002. Can't blame Bush anymore than Kerry/Clinton or ourselves. Now, finish what we started and quit waffeling when the going gets tough. Its better to ID & eliminate terrorists in the plains of Iraq than the caves of Afganastan or the streets of New York.Posted at March 12, 2008 10:28 PM in response to Pentagon Tries to Squelch Report Showing No Link Between Iraq-Al Qaeda
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Still a question after 7 years? Beat the dead horse till it dies? Move on...deal with the present and future. What's done is done.
Lets try to work out our future, reasonably.
We're at a big intersection in the USA.
I personally feel Barak or Hillary is a wrong turn. McCain is questionable, too. Once again, we're gonna choose the lesser of two (three?) evils.
Damn! I love this country!
We are stronger than the terrorists, able to solve our problems, eventually, with a majority consensus and able to get past our differences without killing each other.
AmerikaBeenBerryBerryGoodToMe...Posted at March 12, 2008 10:07 PM in response to Pentagon Tries to Squelch Report Showing No Link Between Iraq-Al Qaeda

