Bullshit.

Posted at July 3, 2008 6:14 PM in response to Obama Suggests He May "Continue To Refine" Iraq Policies

And the dolchstosslegende begins...

Seriously, you can't possibly think that if Obama loses, it'll be because of those 'meddling kids' on the 'left', whatever that means. Good grief. It's hilarious to find posters on TPM, of all places, complaining about the 'left'.

Posted at July 3, 2008 6:09 PM in response to Obama Suggests He May "Continue To Refine" Iraq Policies

Yeah, we sure wouldn't want to put the kibosh on rapidly spreading rumors, would we.

BTW, Obama is a secret Muslim. Pass it on.

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:19 PM in response to Vulnerable GOP Senator Recites Bogus China-Cuba Oil Myth

Genuine compromise is all well and good. But this FISA bill isn't a compromise, it's *capitulation*, of the likes we've seen plenty over the past 7 years.

You'd think that having a majority would change the mindset, but apparently not. Has anyone told the Dems that they outnumber Repubs now?

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:13 PM in response to A Time-line Of Obama's Statements On FISA

I'm not sure I understand why this issue once again needs to be re-hashed on TPM with the top headline

The FISA bill is coming up before the Senate next week.

Does that help clear it up for you?

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:06 PM in response to A Time-line Of Obama's Statements On FISA

TPM didn't have comments back then.

Try again.

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:03 PM in response to A Time-line Of Obama's Statements On FISA

Exactly. Thank you for your well-written comment.

It just stuns me how many people here are willing to sign on to this FISA bill just because Obama supports it, and are therefore so eager to chastise anyone who raises a question about this terrible bill. They claim to not be against dissent, and yet that is exactly what they are against.

They seem so afraid that if Obama were to oppose the bill, the Republicans would gain some huge propaganda advantage, and therefore that is why he must support it.

BULLSHIT! That is exactly the moronic reasoning that got us into this mess in the first place. You've all seen what happens when Obama has shown some spine and stood up to the GOP bullies. Why would it be any different now? What huge constituency is so invested in telecom immunity that they will come out full force against Obama if he opposes it?

Hmmmm?

Posted at July 3, 2008 1:55 PM in response to A Time-line Of Obama's Statements On FISA

That's true. The district as a whole leans Republican, but Musgrave is surprisingly weak. CO-4 is ripe for the picking, and some of us are really hoping she continues to belabor these non-issues, which may rally support from a few quarters, but will annoy the hell out of virtually everyone else.

Posted at July 2, 2008 8:34 AM in response to GOP Rep. Musgrave Repeats China-Cuba Oil Myth

I've been peeved and well, to use a tainted word in these parts, 'concerned' - about Obama's actions or perceived lack thereof in the past couple weeks. But that shouldn't be construed as panic or willingness to sit out the next election based on events in June. No, rest assured that I will in no way vote McCain or Nader or anything of that sort come November.

I consider my complaints to be of the 'holding his feet to the fire' variety, not turning against him or predicting failure. I've been very impressed over the past few months with Obama, and maybe it's just my partial-awareness of the media treatment of him and all, but he seems to be a little unfocused and not taking the fight as hard as he could be or should be, nor as hard as I believe the electorate at large wants. I see a landscape that is absolutely ripe for significant change, not just in leadership but in leadership style and in policy direction. Obama seems tentative in grasping that, and I instead see a McCain-friendly media doing its damnedest to make this more of a race than it really needs or ought to be, and succeeding to an extent.

Then again, what do I know - I'm just a rube living out West, far away in self-imposed exile, looking at all this from afar. I could be way wrong - in fact, I hope I am, at least about the effectiveness of Obama's current approach.

In any case, I'd like to think that it was OK to take our candidate to task when he doesn't promote our ideals - isn't that what participatory democracy is all about?

Please if you disagree with him, FINE. This is a good thing. This is a debate. Debates are the fuel of our Democracy. It’s the being disagreeable part that I’m objecting to.

At what point do you consider a disagreement 'disagreeable'?

Posted at July 1, 2008 11:50 AM in response to TPM Community, STOP LOOKING AT THE SQUIGGLES!!!

I just wish Obama's campaign spent as much time attacking McCain and the Republicans as they do fellow Democrats.

But no, now that's got the nomination, the campaign feels really unfocused and defensive. I won't be surprised to see Obama's lead in the polls and the electoral college fade in the next few weeks, due entirely to his fumbling through this period of denouncing his allies and praising his opponent.

Posted at July 1, 2008 12:25 AM in response to Obama Campaign Condemns Wes Clark's Comments About McCain